Headmaster for a day (was Prank WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Princ

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Ceridwen:
I guess I'll join the parade of "for examples." I do like the
landmine one, though.

We know that Snape saw Madam Pomphrey take Remus to the willow. We
know that Snape suspects Remus is a werewolf. I think we can extend
that to a safe assumption that Snape also saw the Marauders enter the
tunnel after Madam Pomphrey left, then saw them alive and well in
school the next day. This can do one of two things - either Snape
will doubt that Remus is indeed a werewolf, thereby wanting proof one
way or the other all the more, or Snape will assume that there are
protective measures in place that protect the Marauders. Snape does
well in DADA. Shortly after the Prank we see him writing reams on his
DADA exam. He will know that a werewolf cannot differentiate between
friend and foe during transformations and so will assume that either
a) he is wrong or b) there are safeguards in place.
<SNIP>

Alla:

But again if you believe that Snape went there not knowing that Remus 
is a werewolf, then we are just too far from each other and I do not 
think I can even debate that point. Because of course if he believes 
that there is no werewolf there, then of course Sirius tricked him. 
That was my thought before book 7. I thought all that Snape knew was 
that Marauders were doing there something dangerous and he went there 
to find out what exactly it was and hopefully to get them in trouble.

Ooops – there is a werewolf there waiting for Snape. Sure, it is a 
dangerous foolish trick, you would get no argument from me in this 
scenario, none whatsoever. But as I said his conversation with Lily 
put the last nail for me into that idea. I am convinced now that he 
was sure or highly suspected and all my thoughts are based upon this. 
If you do not believe in this building block, there is nothing for me 
to build on, you know?

So, as I am sure I also mentioned somewhere upthread, I believe in 
third possibility – Snape did not think that he was wrong, maybe he 
speculated that safeguards were in place, maybe not, but I think 
regardless he was sure that he can do whatever Marauders do to stay 
safe because he is so good at DADA. He does not know what it is? Oh 
who cares! He is an expert after all, he will show those arrogant toe 
rags that he can handle werewolf too and be a hero in Lily's eyes. 
Speculating of course.

I already addressed landmine example upthread,  and I just do not see 
how that person who showed you how to get in gets to be blamed for 
trying to kill you. I do not care why you went to seek danger, I mean 
in your hypothetical you subscribe the noblest motivations to you, 
and I am sure Snape wanted to be a hero in Lily's eyes as well, and 
eradicate his enemies from school,. But you still **went to seek 
danger**, all on your own. How does that mean that you are the hero, 
honestly beats me, sorry.

Ceridwen:
<SNIP>
Other than that, I'm one of the ones who doubt Sirius wanted Snape to
die but instead wanted him to soil himself and learn a lesson about
snooping on other people. I could be wrong, though, so I agree with
you that there is no indication one way or another that this is what
Sirius intended.

Alla:

I so do not want to explain myself for many posts again, lol, so let  
me just say I do not believe that Sirius wanted to kill Snape either, 
I think they were teenagers doing stupid things, yes and Snape too. I 
just do not think there is a proof either way and of course to me 
what Sirius wanted is not very relevant to what he actually did. The 
way I see it is that even if Sirius badly wanted Snape killed, he 
needed to do much more and something different from what he did for 
me to say that he "tried to kill Snape". Hey, simplest thing - **put 
Imperio on Snape** and here we go – attempt to kill, very clear cut 
IMO.

JMO,

Alla