Headmaster for a day (was Prank WAS :Re: CHAPDISC: DH33, The Princ

montavilla47 montavilla47 at yahoo.com
Wed Nov 19 15:32:25 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184949

> Alla:
> So, as I am sure I also mentioned somewhere upthread, I believe in 
> third possibility – Snape did not think that he was wrong, maybe he 
> speculated that safeguards were in place, maybe not, but I think 
> regardless he was sure that he can do whatever Marauders do to stay 
> safe because he is so good at DADA. He does not know what it is? Oh 
> who cares! He is an expert after all, he will show those arrogant toe 
> rags that he can handle werewolf too and be a hero in Lily's eyes. 
> Speculating of course.

Montavilla47:
To be honest, I think this is the most likely possibility.  While we 
don't see much arrogance in child!Snape (the memories), adult!Snape
has tons of it, so I think it's perfectly in character for teen!Snape to 
think that he could handle a werewolf if the Marauders were doing so.

But Sirius *knew* that Snape couldn't handle Lupin in werewolf 
form.  At least, I think, in my sternly motherly mode that he *ought*
to have known better--and had the decency to warn Snape.  Not
that Snape would have listened.  (Of course, I don't know that he 
*didn't*, because he might have warned Snape and to Snape that
would just have sounded like taunting...)

Flashback music.....

Sirius:  You wanna know what's going on?  Well, why don't you
just press that bump on the tree and you'll find out!

Snape:  Maybe I will!

Sirius:  You know what?  You're an idiot.  Because you'd just
be killing yourself!

Snape:  Sez you!

Sirius: I'm serious!

Snape:  And I'm Severus!  And you can't tell me what to do!

Sirius:  All right, then kill yourself!

> Alla:
> 
> I so do not want to explain myself for many posts again, lol, so let  
> me just say I do not believe that Sirius wanted to kill Snape either, 
> I think they were teenagers doing stupid things, yes and Snape too. I 
> just do not think there is a proof either way and of course to me 
> what Sirius wanted is not very relevant to what he actually did. The 
> way I see it is that even if Sirius badly wanted Snape killed, he 
> needed to do much more and something different from what he did for 
> me to say that he "tried to kill Snape". Hey, simplest thing - **put 
> Imperio on Snape** and here we go – attempt to kill, very clear cut 
> IMO.

Montavilla47:
See, I don't think it really matters whether or not Sirius intended to
kill Snape.  I always knew that that was exaggeration on the part of
Snape.  The thing isn't that Sirius actively intended harm, it's that 
he was either a) too rash and stupid to even consider what might
happen or b) so indifferent for the safety of others that he didn't 
*care* whether or not Snape got killed (let alone what might happen
to Lupin), or c) both.

And I'm afraid that "c" is perfectly in character for Sirius.  Sirius has 
many great qualities and I think it was shame that he died--and
especially that he died after suffering a year of home arrest.  He didn't
deserve any of that--or the twelve years he spent in prison.

But he was profoundly callous and selfish person.  If he loved you,
then you were everything.  If he didn't, then you were nothing.

Really, he and Snape had a lot in common, because Snape was 
pretty much the same for most of his life.  

Montavilla47







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