Snape and Dumbledore in GoF

Happy Smiley happyjoeysmiley at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 25 12:07:01 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 185005

> Zanooda:
> It was a little risky to mention Snape, but not much riskier than other things he did :-). .


Ah, but I think the risk here was Snape and DD discussing the event and spotting the gap in the explanation "Moody" had given to DD (as to how he got there in the first place). 


> Zara:
> I agree that "The Prince's Tale" suggests Albus and Snape discussed 
> all significant things together. I don't agree that this means we 
> have been shown all such discussions of significant things. In fact, 
> I can describe discussions they had, that we were not shown.


> Lynda:
> Hmm. Simply because it is not discussed in the text of the books does not
> mean that we are to assume that they were never discussed. It seems to me
> that as a part of Snapes duties for Dumbledore and his unhappiness with
> Moody being at Hogwarts and being allowed to search offices they would have
> discussed it.


Yes, we have not been *shown* everything - we have to deduce a few things using what has been shown, I agree. Assuming they had discussed it, given the seriousness of the Crouch Sr. event and given the nature of discussions they had as per The Prince's Tale chapter, I was just wondering why the discussion did not pave way to any caution from DD's end. At least, he could have made out that "Moody" had lied to DD about Snape telling him something regarding Crouch Sr. Wouldn't that discovery trigger *something* like say DD going for Legilimens when he meets "Moody" next? Sounds strange to me that something like this didn't happen.


> Carol:
> Since this lie is plausible (obviously, Harry would have told
> Snape that Mr. Crouch was in the forest acting like a madman) and DD
> doesn't yet suspect that "Moody" is an imposter and a murderer, he
> doesn't think to ask Snape whether "Moody" really talked to him, and,
> of course, Snape doesn't bring up the supposed conversation because he
> doesn't know anything abuut "Moody's" lie.


They may not have discussed with the *intent* of discussing their suspicions about "Moody" - the reasons you have pointed out make sense as to why their suspicions wouldn't have been aroused at all. Yet they would have discussed it with the intent of discussing the meaning and impact of the event on their "secret projects" of safeguarding Harry, preventing the revival of LV, etc.. As such, they are yet to discover who put in Harry's name in the GoF. So, they should (would?) have been doubly alert and discussed it, right? And, during the discussion, they would (should?) have discovered the "fishy" aspect of the fake Moody. Even if not during the discussion, DD could have still made out later by reviewing his thoughts via the pensieve. 


Thanks for making this discussion fun and do let me know what you all think! :-)


Cheers,
~Joey 


      

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