Caring about people
Zara
zgirnius at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 8 22:38:13 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 184553
> Magpie:
> So Dumbledore is supposed to know that Voldemort will randomly not
> consider Snape not murdering Dumbledore to be proof of his
> loyalty...but will consider it proof if Snape finds out that Harry
is
> being moved 2 days early and passes that info at all? That's
> completely backwards to me. The first action is far more a proof of
> loyalty and if that didn't do it, this shouldn't either. Besides,
is
> there anyone else we're supposed to think would have been the
> headmaster if Snape hadn't happened to come across this bit of
> information? Snape's already the most qualified, most proven, and
> most accomplished.
Zara:
It's not a random guess by Dumbledore.
>DH, "The Prince's Tale":
> "You will have to give Voldemort the correct date of Harry's
departure from his aunt and uncle's," said Dumbledore. "Not to do so
will raise suspicion, when Voldemort believes you so well informed."
Zara:
In the absence of any doubt cast by the text on this reasoning, it
seems to me most logical to accept that Albus is speaking the truth
here, and that his opinion is based on solid facts he has available
to him (such as whatever Snape has been telling him that we are not
shown). This reading is also supported by Voldemort's own actions in
the first chapter of DH. Snape revealing this information is Item One
of the DE meeting agenda.
It is possibly bad thinking by *Rowling*, if one believes there is no
way Voldemort could care this much, or believe this strongly that
Snape should know and should tell him, but I personally do not find
it so.
> Magpie:
> How come Snape could get away with his "unnamed source"
> not telling him that but not get away with him not knowing the
date?
Zara:
I would bet the envisioned answer is "because the unnamed source
changes the plan *after* Snape reports the date." The scene of "The
Prince's Tale" in which Snape Confunds Mundungus and gives him the
improved plan for moving Harry is shown after the conversation with
Albus' portrait where the necessity of giving the date is discussed.
Perhaps it is also after the time that Snape learns the real date.
We do not, of course, know whether the question was ever asked.
> Magpie:
> It does increase the danger, that danger is just being described as
> unimportant while the danger of Snape not revealing the new date is
> imo exaggerated.
Zara:
To readers who consider it a given that the DEs would show up quickly
regardless...it really does not increase the danger.
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