Plan to move Harry WAS: Re: Caring about people
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Oct 8 23:04:30 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 184554
> Alla:
>
> And to me it is stupidity runs amok. I do not see an indication that
by telling Voldemort about this plan Snape significantly increase his
standing with him.
Pippin:
"You will have to give Voldemort the correct time of Harry's departure
from his aunt and uncle's," said Dumbledore. "Not to do so will raise
suspicion, when Voldemort believes you so well informed."
-DH ch 33.
It's not a matter of increasing Snape's standing, according to DD, but
of the certainty that it will *decrease* if Voldemort discovers that
he was misinformed.
If Snape had confirmed Dawlish's information, then Voldemort would
start wondering how it was that the Order knew to feed wrong
information to Snape's informant, and if not, what exactly is Snape
playing at?
If Snape said he could not confirm Dawlish's information, then the
Dark Lord would seek other means of doing so, meanwhile wondering why
Snape is so unhelpful all of a sudden.
In either case, Snape will have once again failed to deliver Harry
Potter. He will no longer have the handy excuse that he dared not do
anything that might make Dumbledore suspect. As Bella pointed out in
DH, there are many excellent reasons for Voldemort to distrust Snape.
It would not be wise for Dumbledore to bet that Voldemort had
forgotten all of them -- even if he does not punish Snape he is hardly
likely to reward him with the coveted post of headmaster.
The plan protected Snape so that Snape could protect Harry and the
students at Hogwarts. If it had not been Snape who needed to be
protected for that reason, it would have been somebody else. Would you
object to the Order being used for that purpose, or does it only
bother you because it's Snape?
Alla:
So, some cops work so deeply undercover that sometimes they slip and
start selling drugs themselves or even killing people.
Pippin:
I thought that sort of thing would be interesting myself,
*cough*ESE!Lupin*cough* but it doesn't seem to be the story JKR was
telling with Dumbledore.
She told it already, with Professor Quirrell. And there, it's told
properly, with a beginning, a middle, and a conclusion that leaves no
doubt about how Quirrell was led astray. I don't see that here.
Dumbledore does not beg forgiveness for having become enamored of
Voldemort's methods. It's his lack of moral courage he bewails. That's
his weakness, that often he knows what he should do, but cannot bring
himself to do it. You can disagree with Dumbledore's moral judgment
that it was worth putting Order members in danger in order to protect
Snape, but IMO JKR does not.
Pippin
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