Snape as Harry's protector or not WAS Snape and moral courage LONG

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 184700

Montavilla47:
Ah. I understand. So, in order for Snape to care *enough* about
Harry to satisfy you that he's not a sadistic, horrible person, he 
should
*never* have told Harry about Dumbledore's plan and *never* have given
Harry the choice of sacrificing his life. Have I got that clear? 
<SNIP>

Alla:

Almost, yes.  I mean, I believe that Snape is sadistic horrible 
person because of how he treated Harry at school, regardless of him 
protecting or not protecting Harry's life, but if you change your 
sentence slightly by substituting "not a sadistic horrible person" 
to "protector of Harry to the end", then you got it.

And as long as we are speaking about informing Harry, now I think 
that I believe Dumbledore took an easy way out again. I totally think 
that Dumbledore himself should have told him and then truly let him 
make that choice, but now I think that he was also afraid to say it 
to Harry. Does it make sense? I have to sleep on it, because this is 
quite a new thought to me.

Montavilla47:
<SNIP>
Also, people tend to point out that the letter really belonged to
Harry and Snape was stealing it. <SNIP>

Alla:

That would definitely be me, and I really do not think it matters 
whether Snape expects Harry return to Grimmauld place and we know 
that Harry wants to keep the staff from the place, he gets mad when 
Dung is selling silver goblets, so we know that if 
Snape thinks so, he is wrong again.

But that to me is one of the strongest evidence that Snape would not 
care for Harry as a person one bit, I mean taking a part of the rare 
part of his past, that can connect him to his parents. Ugh.


Montavilla47:
I'm not sure why you thought I was saying that. No, I don't think
Harry was being punished *for* the misdeeds of his fathers. I think
Harry was being punished *with* the misdeeds of his fathers. 

Alla:

Thanks for clarifying.

Pippin:
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Why should Dumbledore make it obvious to Snape that he is hiding
something, when he can probably do what Snape does when he is dealing
with Voldie, and give him the guided tour? Let Snape sense only those
thoughts and memories that Dumbledore wants him to see, I mean.

Alla:
OH. I got it.  Do we know that Snape does that with Voldemort though? 
Gives him guided tour, I mean, is that possible at all? I mean, I am 
not saying it is not possible, but just not sure. If we do know that 
you sold me the possibility that Dumbledore indeed tried to tell 
Snape that something more than usual secret is happening here. I mean 
I still do not think that Snape would have necessarily figured it 
out, but I see what you mean and it makes sense to me.