CHAPDISC: DH32, The Elder Wand

jkoney65 jkoney65 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 30 18:44:16 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184770

> > >jkoney65 
> > > Harry checking on Snape is still the most unbelievable thing to
> me.  He had no reason to check on Snape. All he knew was that Snape
> had  treated him like crap his entire life and the last time he saw
> him  before this day was when he killed Dumbledore right in front 
of 
> him.  So from Harry's perspective I don't know why he did.
> 
> Pippin:
> Harry had to be aware, at least subconsciously, that something 
didn't
> fit. Snape raised his wand but didn't use it. Also, Snape was  
aware 
> that Draco or one of the other DE's could have  deprived Dumbledore 
of
> his wand before he died, yet he didn't bring up that possibility to
> Voldemort, even though it would  have bought him some time. 


jkoney
Sure Snape raised his wand and didn't use it. To Harry that could 
just mean that Snape was a coward (he last really saw him killing an 
unarmed man) or unable to fight someone with some skills. 
 
> 
> jkoney65:
> . Add to it that it was  Dumbledore's wand, the most famous wizard 
of
> the era and I don't  see how he could not recognize it.
> 
> Pippin:
> *Ollivander* didn't recognize it -- though the one time when we see
> them together Dumbledore didn't use his wand, still, DD used it in
> public many times. I don't think it can be recognized by sight.
> 
> From Snape's reaction when he understands that Voldemort has 
obtained
> his wand from Dumbledore' tomb, I think portrait!Dumbledore had told
> Snape that Voldemort would search for the Elder Wand, but of course
> portrait!Dumbledore wouldn't know what had become of it. Only Hagrid
> would have known it had been buried with Dumbledore. I suppose 
Hagrid
>  found it on the grounds. 
>

jkoney
When did Ollivander see Voldemort with the elder wand? Ollivander who 
remembers Harry's parents wands would certainly recognize a wand by 
sight alone. Since it wasn't a wand he made he would be more curious 
about it. 

Ollivander didn't know that Dumbledore's wand was the elder wand. All 
he said was that Gregorovitch(sp?) said that he had the elder wand, 
not that he had ever seen it.






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