CHAPDISC: DH32, The Elder Wand

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Thu Oct 30 20:16:49 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184772

 
> > jkoney65:
> > . Add to it that it was  Dumbledore's wand, the most famous wizard
 of the era and I don't  see how he could not recognize it.
> > 
> > Pippin:
> > *Ollivander* didn't recognize it -- though the one time when we
see them together Dumbledore didn't use his wand, still, DD used it in
 public many times. I don't think it can be recognized by sight.
>snip> 
> jkoney
> When did Ollivander see Voldemort with the elder wand? Ollivander
who  remembers Harry's parents wands would certainly recognize a wand
by  sight alone. Since it wasn't a wand he made he would be more
curious  about it. 
> 
> Ollivander didn't know that Dumbledore's wand was the elder wand. 
<snip>

Pippin:
That's my point. Despite the fact that Dumbledore had been using the
Elder Wand in public for more than fifty years, Ollivander never
realized he had it, even though the wand has been an object of
"incredible fascination to all of us who study the power of wands" and
Dumbledore often used his wand in public. 

Ollivander must have been curious about the wand of a wizard as mighty
as Dumbledore, yet he doesn't seem to have entertained the slightest
idea that it was the Elder Wand.

Ollivander knew the "certain identifying characteristics that those of
us who are learned in wandlore recognize" but he also says that the
Elder Wand sometimes "vanishes from view, temporarily lost or hidden."
(DH ch 24)

Ollivander established here that the Elder Wand can be hidden;
naturally I thought he meant  stashed away somewhere like the Mirror
of Erised or Voldemort's horcruxes. But an object can also be hidden
by disguise, as many things in the Potterverse have been.


Pippin






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