HBP Chapter 20 Post DH Look

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 19 02:58:13 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184380

"I thought I had made it clear to you how very important that memory 
is. Indeed, I did my best to impress upon you that it is the most 
crucial memory of all and that we will be wasting our time without 
it" - p.428


Alla:

Funny, before DH I really enjoyed how Dumbledore scolds Harry in this 
chapter. I thought that it was really similar of how Lupin scolds 
Harry in PoA and nicely contrasts Snape's style of "teaching" Harry.

And now I am rereading it and thinking some different thoughts. Oh I 
am still enjoying Dumbledore's style here as an example of what works 
for Harry, but I am also thinking why the hell Dumbledore needed 
Harry to do that. I mean, I am guessing that Dumbledore scared 
Slughorn out of his wits if he now walks with Veritaserum ( in 
previous chapter we learned that), so basically Dumbledore wants 
Harry to do something that he was not completely succesful with.

And it is rather strong bit of manipulation, right?


So question one - why in light of DH that was needed? I mean, I 
understand why they needed a memory, I just do not see that 
Dumbledore could not try one more time.

But what I am also trying to say is that I was sort of seeing the 
arguments that Dumbledore is teaching Harry Slytherin art of 
manipulation because he would need it for final battle, final 
encounter.

And final encounter needed sacrifice and not manipulation. SO, yes, I 
wonder why all this was needed.


"Then if I were to go to the Hog's Head tonight, I would not find a 
group of them - Nott, Rosier, Mulciber, Dolohov - awaiting your 
return? Devoted friends indeed, to travel this far with you on a 
snowy night, merely to wish you luck as you attempted to secure a 
teaching post.
There could be no doubt that Dumbledore's detailed knowledge of those 
with whom he was traveling was even less welcome to Voldemort; 
however he rallied almost at once.
"You are as omnicient as ever, Dumbledore."
"Oh no, merely friendly with local barmen, said Dumbledore lightly." -
 p.445


Alla:

So why exactly these characters were waiting for Tommy dear? I mean, 
if he would have gotten teaching job did they expect just to follow 
him to Hogwarts?

And does "friendly with barman" means that Albus had okay 
relationship with Aberforth after all?

"For a second, Harry was on a verge of shouting a pointless warning: 
He was sure that Voldemort's hand had twitched toward his pocket and 
his wand; but then the moment had passed, Voldemort had turned away, 
the door was closing, and he was gone" - p.446


Alla:

So if this was the infamous curse moment, why did Voldie need a wand? 
Could he not do wandlessly?





More information about the HPforGrownups archive