HBP Chapter 20 Post DH Look

happyjoeysmiley happyjoeysmiley at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 19 04:49:28 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184382

Alla wrote:

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> So question one - why in light of DH that was needed? I mean, I 
> understand why they needed a memory, I just do not see that 
> Dumbledore could not try one more time.

Joey:

I think DD felt that it would not work how much ever he tries 
because Slughorn was both alert and unwilling as far as sharing the 
memory is concerned. I think DD knew *very well* the weakness 
Slughorn had for both knowing "celebrity" type of wizards/witches 
and for bragging about his connections to others. And, Harry was 
anyway #1 in list of celebrities in the wizarding world at that 
point in time. This has already helped DD to weaken Slughorn's 
resolve once. So, the probability of it helping one more time is 
higher. Also, DD might have known Slughorn's liking for Lily as his 
old student.

Alla wrote:

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> 
> But what I am also trying to say is that I was sort of seeing the 
> arguments that Dumbledore is teaching Harry Slytherin art of 
> manipulation because he would need it for final battle, final 
> encounter.
> 
> And final encounter needed sacrifice and not manipulation. SO, 
yes, I 
> wonder why all this was needed.

Joey:

But then who can know at this point as to what would be exactly 
needed for the final encounter? It could be sacrifice, could be 
presence of mind, could be manipulation, could be anything. DD has 
only interpreted what incidents meant but has never expected them to 
happen with 100% certainty. For example, he never *knew* that the AK 
curse will rebound on LV when he tried to kill Harry or that the 
connection between the wands of Harry and LV will end up saving 
Harry in GoF. He only interpreted them after these incidents took 
place or when Harry narrated them. I think DD never ruled out the 
possibility of Harry killing LV without harming himself. So, I think 
he was only arming Harry with as much information as possible - he 
seems to think that knowledge could also add to Harry's power and 
that it might give him an edge over LV. I think DD himself believed 
in the power of information and knowledge as much as he did in the 
power of love - it has helped him to extrapolate and guess with 
higher confidence as to what LV was/is up to, right?

JMO,
~Joey [ who has just completed reading Chapter 1 of DH this morning 
as part of her reading the HP series for the second time and who 
thinks that she might answer the same questions very differently 
once she is done with DH :) ]






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