HBP Chapter 20 Post DH Look
happyjoeysmiley
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Fri Sep 19 04:49:28 UTC 2008
No: HPFGUIDX 184382
Alla wrote:
<SNIP>
> So question one - why in light of DH that was needed? I mean, I
> understand why they needed a memory, I just do not see that
> Dumbledore could not try one more time.
Joey:
I think DD felt that it would not work how much ever he tries
because Slughorn was both alert and unwilling as far as sharing the
memory is concerned. I think DD knew *very well* the weakness
Slughorn had for both knowing "celebrity" type of wizards/witches
and for bragging about his connections to others. And, Harry was
anyway #1 in list of celebrities in the wizarding world at that
point in time. This has already helped DD to weaken Slughorn's
resolve once. So, the probability of it helping one more time is
higher. Also, DD might have known Slughorn's liking for Lily as his
old student.
Alla wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> But what I am also trying to say is that I was sort of seeing the
> arguments that Dumbledore is teaching Harry Slytherin art of
> manipulation because he would need it for final battle, final
> encounter.
>
> And final encounter needed sacrifice and not manipulation. SO,
yes, I
> wonder why all this was needed.
Joey:
But then who can know at this point as to what would be exactly
needed for the final encounter? It could be sacrifice, could be
presence of mind, could be manipulation, could be anything. DD has
only interpreted what incidents meant but has never expected them to
happen with 100% certainty. For example, he never *knew* that the AK
curse will rebound on LV when he tried to kill Harry or that the
connection between the wands of Harry and LV will end up saving
Harry in GoF. He only interpreted them after these incidents took
place or when Harry narrated them. I think DD never ruled out the
possibility of Harry killing LV without harming himself. So, I think
he was only arming Harry with as much information as possible - he
seems to think that knowledge could also add to Harry's power and
that it might give him an edge over LV. I think DD himself believed
in the power of information and knowledge as much as he did in the
power of love - it has helped him to extrapolate and guess with
higher confidence as to what LV was/is up to, right?
JMO,
~Joey [ who has just completed reading Chapter 1 of DH this morning
as part of her reading the HP series for the second time and who
thinks that she might answer the same questions very differently
once she is done with DH :) ]
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