HBP Chapters 27 - 30 post DH look LONG SORRY

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Sun Sep 28 23:45:26 UTC 2008


No: HPFGUIDX 184480

 
> Alla:
> 
> Indeed, but making sure Draco is not a threat in my opinion would 
> have definitely made everybody's safer.

Pippin:
Possibly, if everything else remained the same. But it wouldn't,
because the Dark Lord was ready to move against Dumbledore as soon as
Draco failed. "You could do it" says Narcissa, and be rewarded. The
Ministry and the Order, in other words, are no longer keeping
Voldemort at bay. Dumbledore does not know that Draco will get DE's
into Hogwarts. But he knows that Headmaster Snape will have no choice.
 
>
> Alla:
> 
> I think he should have expressly forbid Harry to go to Tower and
yes,  I am positive that Harry would have obeyed, especially after he 
> obeyed in the cave. 

Pippin:
Dumbledore did not know what was about to happen on the Tower until it
was too late. He may have been expecting to find Snape there; if he
had arrived a few minutes later, he would have.

> Alla:

If he did not want to bully Dursleys, he IMO should 
> not have given them Harry in the first place.

Pippin:
It's not a question of caring about the Dursleys, it's a question of
whether  bullying is an effective way to deal with people. It doesn't
work  for Severus or James or Vernon or Dudley, it robs Sirius of his
life and Voldemort of his soul, so why should it work for Dumbledore?
And why should Petunia put up with it? Out of her so great love for
Harry that she cannot even bring herself to wish him luck?

 I think the glass bouncing shows that Dumbledore was angry, and not
above showing it once there's no chance that Vernon and Petunia can
take it out on Harry once he is gone.  But he knows that bullying the
Dursleys would make them behave better only for a short time, and in
the long run would make them worse. 

> Alla:
> 
> I was talking about him not caring about one person in that
instance,  the one whom he ordered to do a killing thing.

Pippin:
Dumbledore never ordered Snape to kill him. "I ask this one great
favor of you."  I don't see any bullying happening -- Snape is not
threatened, only asked to consider whether it would harm his soul to
spare an old man pain and humiliation. They both take some time to
think about it and Snape doesn't answer immediately. He could have
said no. It's not like he always does everything that Dumbledore asks
of him.


Pippin






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