Ron WAS: Re: DH reread CH 4-5

[happyjoeysmiley]

No: HPFGUIDX 186306

Magpie wrote:
[snip]
When Ron has his triumph Harry isn't even there cheering him on. 

Joey:

Harry and Hermione wanted to stay till the end of the match - just that Hagrid's condition and words made them decide otherwise.

BTW, I think had Harry and Hermione (especially Hermione) had got to stay till the end of the match, patted Ron on the back for his performance, desribed how brilliant he was and how great they felt when he excelled, things would have turned out great for Ron's self-confidence levels and he may have just eliminated future failures in Quidditch. Probably even Ginny could have taken the initiative - she isn't portrayed as a sister who did that for Ron. Hmm.

Magpie wrote:
[snip]
When Ron and Harry fight in GoF Ron has to make up to Harry for accusing him of putting his name in the Goblet but Harry never has to apologize to Ron for accusing him of wanting to be Harry.

Joey:

Good point - has never occured to me. :-)

Magpie wrote:
[snip]
Harry's a very high maintenance friend that gets along with Ron partially because most of the time Ron's pretty easy-going and follows more naturally than he leads. 
[snip]

Joey:

And because Ron is loyal and caring, I think - if these qualities are missing, it is impossible to sign-up for accompanying Harry in his dangerous and near-fatal encounters.

Carol wrote:

[snip]
He does, however, want loyalty and moral support himself. (His whole attitude toward, say, Zacharias Smith is, essentially, if you don't understand that I don't want to talk about Cedric, than you're against me. No attempt whatever to understand that Zach might want to know what happened to Hufflepuff's only hero or even care about him as a person.) 
[snip]

Joey:

In this case alone, I think the way Zacharias put it across also messed up things. Yet I agree that Harry's reaction may not have been emotionally brilliant had Zacharias said, "Harry, I'm deeply hurt that my fellow Hufflepuff, our dear Cedric passed away and I'm anxious to know what happened; would you please tell us?" - Harry's reaction to that would have been as non-verbal and as awkward as always. :-)

Carol wrote:
[snip]
It just doesn't seem to me as if he gets as much out of the friendship as Harry does. Maybe that's why he so badly needs praise and recognition for his own achievements from Hermione.
[snip]

Joey:

Makes sense. I think to do what Ron did for Harry demands a huge amount of loyalty that a person of an average moral fiber probably cannot provide. And as you say, had Hermione (Or perhaps Molly? Or Arthur?) appreciated Ron even for what he has been to Harry (leave alone Ron's achievements), things might have been different for Ron. 

JMO,
~Joey :-)