[HPforGrownups] Umbridge's Actions in OOP (was: Where Are They Now? Chara...

terrianking at aol.com terrianking at aol.com
Thu Aug 27 21:58:29 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 187622


Dave:
But in Harry's confrontation with Scrimgeour (HBP,  chapter 16) Harry 
holds up his scarred hand to him, and Scrimgeour asks no  questions 
about it, as if he knew perfectly well how those scars got  there. I 
think the Ministry knew perfectly well what Umbridge was doing,  and 
indeed, probably applauded her for "daring to  discipline".
 
Robert:
 
It's stated in the books that Harry isn't the only one who was disciplined  
in this manner. While he may have unobservant relatives who could care less 
what  happened to him while he was away, the others who  (Lee Jordan is the 
only  name I can think of off-hand) faced the same punishment most probably 
didn't. I  know if my child came home for Christmas holiday with a healing 
scar on her hand  in the shape of words I would notice and want to know how 
it got there. Even  Harry wasn't successful at hiding his hand for long. 
The Ministry had to have been told about it by angry parents at some time  
during Umbridge's tenure, and I agree. Fudge probably did back her  up.  I 
don't see how Scimgeour, working at the Ministry as head of the  aurors 
office didn't at least hear about it from someone. 
 
 
 


Dave:
As for the Dementors, I'm sure she gave Scrimgeour a nice  little 
cover story, claiming that the attack was the start of the  Dementors' 
rebellion, she knew nothing about it, blah, blah, blah. And  
Dumbledore and Harry are disliked by Scrimgeour enough that he  
certainly was not going to believe them over  her.

Robert:
Didn't she admit in front of the students at Hogwarts that she gave that  
order?
Those kids are awfully secretive about school life if none of this,  
including the attempted Crucio,  ever got out to the general public.
 
 
Robert
 
 








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