Snape killing flies WAS: Re: Lily WAS: First lesson

lizzyben04 lizzyben04 at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 10 19:27:17 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 185757

<snip>
> zanooda:
> 
> I'm not sure that the situations are comparable :-). I can easily
> imagine myself laughing in the bucking broom case, but in SWM - not 
so
> much. Maybe gray underwear can be funny, I don't know, but even if 
it
> can, I would have been so mad at the jerks humiliating my friend, 
that
> I wouldn't be able to laugh anyway (that's why I think that Sev and
> Lily were not really best friends at the time of SWM, not anymore). 

lizzyben:

I agree w/you & also agree that the friendship was long gone by that 
point. Also, Snape's Worst Memory is more humiliating & serious, 
which is why she restrained herself from laughing after a brief 
smile. But it's really a question of degree rather than a totally 
different situation - both situations involve social humiliation for 
poor Severus & both involve him being suspended in the air & made 
helpless by a magical prank. She *was* amused by the sight of Snape 
struggling, just like the girl in the broom memory was. 

So, I think that backs up that the girl is Lily & tells us something 
about her sense of humor - which is a very Gryffindor sense of humor 
that finds humor in humiliation, pain & pranks. It sort of goes back 
to the whole Gryffindor persona of rescuer/persecutor. Lily was 
Snape's rescuer, but IMO she was at times his persecutor too. Snape 
worshipped the ground Lily walked on, of course, & would never admit 
that. But in that moment, Snape is a "victim" who sees his "rescuer" 
& "persecutor" both enjoying their mutual positions of superiority. 
And he snapped at Lily for (IMO) probably the first & last time ever. 
So I like to think that SWM was the moment where he saw, for one 
instant, that his beloved rescuer & hated persecutor were somehow one 
and the same.

<snip> Snape is just
> not someone who can laugh at himself, otherwise he would have 
laughed
> together with the girl (Lily or not). Actually, I don't remember 
Snape
> ever laughing :-).


lizzyben:

Me either, though he often smirked or sneered. Ummm... maybe when 
Slytherin won the House Cup? 





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