Snape killing flies WAS: Re: Lily WAS: First lesson
lizzyben04
lizzyben04 at yahoo.com
Tue Feb 10 19:27:17 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 185757
<snip>
> zanooda:
>
> I'm not sure that the situations are comparable :-). I can easily
> imagine myself laughing in the bucking broom case, but in SWM - not
so
> much. Maybe gray underwear can be funny, I don't know, but even if
it
> can, I would have been so mad at the jerks humiliating my friend,
that
> I wouldn't be able to laugh anyway (that's why I think that Sev and
> Lily were not really best friends at the time of SWM, not anymore).
lizzyben:
I agree w/you & also agree that the friendship was long gone by that
point. Also, Snape's Worst Memory is more humiliating & serious,
which is why she restrained herself from laughing after a brief
smile. But it's really a question of degree rather than a totally
different situation - both situations involve social humiliation for
poor Severus & both involve him being suspended in the air & made
helpless by a magical prank. She *was* amused by the sight of Snape
struggling, just like the girl in the broom memory was.
So, I think that backs up that the girl is Lily & tells us something
about her sense of humor - which is a very Gryffindor sense of humor
that finds humor in humiliation, pain & pranks. It sort of goes back
to the whole Gryffindor persona of rescuer/persecutor. Lily was
Snape's rescuer, but IMO she was at times his persecutor too. Snape
worshipped the ground Lily walked on, of course, & would never admit
that. But in that moment, Snape is a "victim" who sees his "rescuer"
& "persecutor" both enjoying their mutual positions of superiority.
And he snapped at Lily for (IMO) probably the first & last time ever.
So I like to think that SWM was the moment where he saw, for one
instant, that his beloved rescuer & hated persecutor were somehow one
and the same.
<snip> Snape is just
> not someone who can laugh at himself, otherwise he would have
laughed
> together with the girl (Lily or not). Actually, I don't remember
Snape
> ever laughing :-).
lizzyben:
Me either, though he often smirked or sneered. Ummm... maybe when
Slytherin won the House Cup?
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