CHAPDISC: DH36, THE FLAW IN THE PLAN.

jkoney65 jkoney65 at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 10 00:11:23 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 185277

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at ...> 
wrote:
>
>  
> Pippin:
> It's the most dangerous and deadly wand in existence. It's  the best
> wand if you want to frighten people or kill them.  Harry wants to 
save
> them. Which wand do you think is going to be best for that, the wand
> that chose Harry for what he was, or the Wand of Destiny that had no
> choice? I think in Harry's mind, the Elder Wand belongs with
> Dumbledore, who won it and tamed it, not with Harry Potter who only
> achieved it by accident.
> 
> I take your point about Harry's duties, but I assume he would follow
> the advice he gave to young Albus, and not engage in any duels until
> he knows how. There will be several years of training (plus remedial
> potions and whatever else he needs to bring his skills up to NEWT
> level) before it's his duty to fight as an auror. And aurors don't
> fight alone, anyway.
> 
> If Harry will once again have  to rely on others to protect him, at
> least he will know that he's earned it.

jkoney65:
The wand is dangerous? How so? The wand can't do anything without the 
wizard using it. Maybe many of its past owners weren't the best 
people but that has no bearing on Harry.

Dumbledore tamed the wand. Who is to say that Harry couldn't tame it 
further? He does have a stubborn streak and willingness to complete 
the task set in front of him. I think he is more than capable of 
mastering the wand to his will.

I doubt that Harry is going to need much training to become an auror. 
They are going to try and get him in uniform as soon as possible. He 
defeated the dark lord. That alone will scare the crap out of many 
people. And the ones that aren't afraid aren't going to wait until 
Harry thinks he is ready to fight. 


>> Pippin:
> Dumbledore used the wand for 50 years and never found in it the 
power
> to make others see the truth. The wizarding world does not need to
> perpetuate its fantasy of  benign and powerful wizards holding their
> wands aloft and showering magical benefits on lesser beings. 
> 
> I don't think Harry was thinking about keeping the wand safe from
> thieves when he planned to put it in the tomb. The Secret Keeper 
spell
> can take care of that.> 


jkoney65:
I'm not sure what truth Dumbledore was supposed to make them see. I 
doubt many people believe the fountain in the ministry as the way 
things are or should be.

I don't think anyone in the trio knew the fidelius spell otherwise 
they could have hid the tent from everyone and wouldn't have had to 
move around. 

jkoney65, who is trying to keep his temper with his dog who decided 
he didn't want to go down two steps and decided to urinate all over 
the hallway rug instead.





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