Peverell names/the young uns/Quirrel/Quidditch/Sorting/Scorpions/Crucio/Glas

[Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)]

No: HPFGUIDX 185435

Kamion wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185342>:

<< Cadmus as sower of discord as if it was like sowing dragonteeth is
a good one, >>

Yes, sowing the dragon's teeth is a good reference, but the actual
initial letter of the name, 'C', is shaped like the stone rather than
like the wand. To me, it would be better if his combative name started
with 'I', the letter shaped like the wand. All I could think of was
'Invictus', so I welcome better suggestions.

<< Antioch is the English for Antiochos and that name seems to mean
stubborn, resistant. A suitable name for the brother that was too
stubborn to accept the death of a beloved >>

Maybe, but it starts with 'A', the letter shaped like the cloak, and I
would prefer it to start with a letter shaped like the stone. 'C' or
'O' or whatever else is a round letter. Conveniently, Orpheus very
famously did almost retrieve his beloved Eurydice from the land of death.

Making it 'Antioch' rather than 'Antiochus' made me think it had
something to do with one of the cities named Antioch.

<< Ignotus is a bit of a cooked up name, not the most brillant piece
of Rowlesk wordplay, >>

Carol likes it so much that I would regret depriving her of it.

<< but to replace it with Aidoneus, that sounds a bit as a mix of
Aidan and Adonias; fire in Irish and lord in Hebrew, I think Ignotus
is better. >>

No, No, Aidoneus is Greek. It's one of the names of Hades, god of the
land of the dead, and it means 'unseen'. 'A' is shaped like the cloak
and 'unseen' is what the cloak does -- I didn't even bother to seek a
suitable name starting with 'V'.

Laura Kneazlecat summarised the Epilogue in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185344>:

<< We learn that Albus is also named for a Slytherin, Severus Snape >>

Albus Severus Potter's initials are ASP, a kind of venomous snake.
Rowling may not have even noticed that, but at least she didn't cancel
any chance that it omens that he will be Sorted into the Snake House
and be best friends with Scorpius Malfoy. It *could* happen, if James
and his big second-year friends are so sarcastic to Albus that he runs
away to avoid crying, and then runs into Scorpius who treats him politely.

In my mind, I see Rosie Weasley as resembling Ginny Weasley by being
so pretty and so extremely self-confident that everyone loves her,
including James' second-year friends, so she remains in their
compartment and is Sorted into Gryffindor. If she forms the New Trio
with Score and Albie, their extra special adventures could heal the
breach between Slytherin and Gryffindor.

Happy Joey Smiley wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185353>:

<< Probably, Lily is like her mom. >>

Oh, dear. I hope not. The brave, kind, honorable Ginny of GoF, who
refused to break her date with Neville just in order to attend the
Ball with her best beloved ... blossomed into that loud-mouthed,
violent, bully and cheat in HBP. She's a monster -- where did her
gentleness go? Imagine Harry's summers with two such children in the
house.

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185365>:

<< wondering how Quirrell transported Vapor1mort to Britain (he 
was not yet possessed by him and Baby!mort was three years in the
future) >>

Presumably inside a series of unfortunate rodents.

Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185368>:

<< And they need Houses, or how could they form rival Quidditch teams? >>

There is an alternate way, which I think I mentioned in the chapdisc
when Hermione said that all this Quidditch creates hostility and
should be abolished. 

First, all the people who want to be Quidditch Captains apply to Madam
Hooch and she picks, say, four of them. Then everyone who wants to
play tries out with Madam Hooch and the four Captains watching. The
four Captains draw straws or something for who gets to pick first,
second, third, fourth, and then they go round and round calling the
names of the players they're picking. The Captains' choices would be
based on whom they liked, on how the player performed last year, and
on how the player performed in the try-outs. If there was fear that
this could turn into House rivalry, there could be rules like no more
than one third of the players on a team are from the same House. 

The members of each team could choose a name for their team, with
Lions, Eagles, Badgers, Ravens, Snakes, Serpents, and Gryffins all
tacitly ruled out. We could have Dragons, Wolves, Wasps, Butchers,
Hurricanes, etc.

I think Rowling expected her readers to be familiar with having two
team captains who takes turns picking players, because didn't she
mentioned in PS/SS that Harry was always picked last in Muggle school?
Americans will have at least heard of the football draft, which is a
complicated version of the same thing.

<< I don't think that the soul bit influenced Harry's personality all
that strongly (though the Sorting Hat must have sensed it without
recognizing it) >>

A listie long ago annotated the Sorting Hat's words to Harry:
"Difficult. Very difficult. Plenty of courage, I see. Not a bad mind
either. There's talent, oh my goodness, yes -- and a nice thirst to
prove yourself, now that's interesting.... So where shall I put you?"
with "now that's interesting" referring to the Voldemort soul bit.

Potioncat wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185374>:

<< What? Venomous! Me? >>

Potion is venom. (I also am a Scorpio, and convinced that Snape is a
Scorpio despite Rowling making him a Capricorn, but I'm neither good
nor interested in potions. To me, chemistry belongs in books, not the
lab, and cooking should be done by someone else.)

In Kemet/Ta-wy/Ta-meri (Mitzraiim), Selqet/Selket/Serket/Selqis was
the Scorpion Goddess, recognized by the scorpion on top of her head.
She was one of the four protective goddesses of burial, with Isis
(Aset, Au Set), Nephthys (Nebethet), and Neith. Let me look up the
correspondences - I wrote them down on my checkbook cover -

East - Neith - Duamutef - jackal head - stomach
South - Isis - Imseti (sometimes Mesti) - human head - liver
West - Selket - Qebehsenuef - falcon head - intestines
North - Nebethet - Hapi - baboon head - lungs

I wish I knew what the Egyptians were thinking when they came up with
these correspondences. For one thing, Isis, Nephthys and Neith are
great goddesses who appear in many stories and have many people named
after them, while I've never heard of Selket in any other connection.
I once mentioned this on a Wiccan mlist, where one listie told me that
Selket had helped Isis make the potion that brought Osiris back to
life. He said, unfortunately, the way she helped was by providing
mashed scorpions as an ingredient, so scorpions have never liked Isis
since then. A scorpion stung Isis's son Horus, and she cured him by
magically drawing out the venom, so since then an amulet showing Horus
standing on a defeated scorpion protects against being bitten by a
scorpion. Anyway, this can be viewed as a connection between scorpions
and healing potions.

Pippin wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185398>:

<< Neville says that they are supposed to *practice* [the Cruciatis
Curse] on students held in detention. That would risk permanent damage
if the students were actually good at it, something Neville says they
are supposed to avoid. >>

LV's reason for not spilling pure blood was he needed all the
purebloods as breeding stock. Would being driven out of their minds
like the poor Longbottoms have prevented using them for breeding
children that would be raised by adoptive families and House Elves?

Zara wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/185434>:

<< Harry's not the only wizard in glasses - Albus wears them
too, and I seem to recall mention of them in connection to some minor
characters as well. >>

James wore glasses, at least as seen in the Mirror of Erised.
Professor Trelawney wore very large glassses that increased her
resemblance to some glittering insect. McGonagall and Skeeter each
wore spectacles that resembled the markings of their Animagus form --
which seems strange to me, as I used to change my style of eyeglasses
every couple of years. If they changes to rimless frames, will their
animal forms lose some markings?