Wand allegiance.

eggplant107 eggplant107 at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 14 17:31:03 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 187332

"Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> Maybe it's not possible for Voldemort to
> be more powerful than he already is.
 
There is absolutely nothing in the books to suggest that, and it's absolutely certain Voldemort thought he could become more powerful, otherwise he's have no reason to go after the Elder Wand. Logically the first thing you'd do when you get a new and improved wand is try to do something you couldn't do before, and this must have been when Voldemort became disappointed.  

> Voldemort's word is not evidence at all
> given all the times we've seen him lie

So if a character explains something it's still a plot hole because maybe the character is lying. If so than all literature is one big plot hole. By the way what would be Voldemort's motivation to tell Snape he was dissatisfied with his new wand if really he was not when he knew Snape would be dead in about two minutes. For that matter if he was happy with his new wand why did he kill someone he thought of as a loyal and useful lieutenant?   

> The problem is, it's done everything
> he's asked of it

The very fact that when Voldemort says he's unhappy with his new wand the battle is still going on and he's still outside the walls of Hogwarts not inside makes it abundantly clear that his wand has NOT done everything he's asked of it.

> Where is the evidence that the Elder Wand
> could do what you say it could do?

Ollivander knew more about wands than anyone but even he said the Phoenix wand was broken beyond repair, but Harry fixed it easily with the Elder Wand. 

> He simply has no grounds for suddenly
> doubting the Elder Wand after successfully
> using it for about a month. It *is* a plot hole 

It's not even a plot dimple, but refusing to use the Elder Wand is a plot canyon. Fortunately that last piece of silliness is confined to the very end of the book and can be rectified by just changing a few dozen words. I confess I do that mentally when I reread the book.

> The plot hole is in *Ron's* having seen
> Draco with the Hand of Glory, which Harry
> never even told Ron about so far as we know. 

You call that a plot hole?! Is it really inconceivable to you that sometime in the last 5 years Harry told his best friend that Draco was interested in the Hand of Glory?

> there are dozens of other such errors
> (even S-bend vs. U-bend for Moaning Myrtle). 

And I wouldn't give that trifle the grand title of "plot hole" either because nobody cares if Moaning Myrtle lives in the S bend or the U bend. But people do care about Harry's future life making some sort of sense and it wouldn't unless he uses the Elder Wand. 

> I don't recall Dumbledore saying that
> he couldn't cast an unbreakable protective spell. 

In Order of the Phoenix on page 835 Dumbledore says:

"I knew that Voldemort's knowledge of magic is perhaps more extensive than any wizard alive. I knew that even my most complex and powerful protective spells and charms were unlikely to be invincible if he ever returned to full power" 

> Have you forgotten that Harry can't 
> make the Snatcher's wand work for him in DH? 

Read it again, Harry hated the wand and it didn't work nearly as well as he thought it should, but it's just not true that it didn't work at all. If you or I could do magic like that we'd be the wonder of the age. 

 Eggplant






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