[HPforGrownups] Draco and Intent: Re: Snape and Harry's Sadism (was: Lack of re-examination)

[k12listmomma]

No: HPFGUIDX 186825

> Carol earlier:
>> > <snip>
>> > Draco has the grace to acknowledge Harry with a nod rather than 
>> > remaining his enemy, but, then, Harry has saved the whole WW from 
>> > Voldemort. It's very different from James, whose next act after saving 
>> > Severus for wholly selfish reasons is to publicly humiliate him.
>>
>>
>> Shelley:
>> I would dispute this last line. There might have been a lot of actions 
>> between the "saving" and the "humiliation", and I think we have enough 
>> cannon to fill in some of those gaps. <snip>
>> So, I would change that line to read " Draco has the grace to acknowledge 
>> Harry with a nod rather than remaining his enemy, but, then, Harry has 
>> saved the whole WW from Voldemort. It's very different from Snape, whose 
>> next act after being saved is to fight the rescuer, and continue the bad 
>> blood that led to more publicly humiliations."
>>
> Carol responds:
>
> The actions are canonically about a week apart. (See "The Prince's Tale." 
> Given his detailed responses on the DADA exam, which occurs just before 
> SWM, and his studying of the test after he's taken it, I think it's safe 
> to say that Severus has spent most of that week studying for his OWLs. He 
> has done nothing to antagonize Sirius and James, who merely say "Look who 
> it is" before they sneak up on him and attack him without provocation.
>
> There's no canon whatever to indicate that Severus has fought his 
> rescuer--at least not until that rescuer attacks him two on one.
>
> Carol, whose position in the previous post remains unchanged

Shelley:
Are you assuming then, that when everyone was questioned about that night, 
that Snape didn't point a finger at James and crew to say "Look what they 
did to me- I could have been killed!" On the contrary, I see no cannon at 
all that says that Snape changed his mind only after being tormented several 
more times, that he was ok at first and only grew bitter at a later date. I 
see cannon that from the get-go, he's pissed as hell that this crew set him 
up, and he's even more angry when James gets an award for it which he thinks 
is totally out of place. I see no cannon of a mind change only after 
torment, because why would they need to torment him if he was totally 
grateful and thankful for the rescue? Nope, I see it totally in character 
for Snape to be an ungrateful git who only wanted to see the others punished 
for what they did, and angry when the headmaster didn't see things his way. 
I just can't see the change in Snape after more teasings and torment....it 
just doesn't fit with cannon as far as I've read it.