Snape and Lucius was James and Intent And Snape

malfoydnl malfoydnl at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jun 15 19:34:08 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 187070

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> Alla:
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> Yes, that is why it is speculation :) about the years Lucius was in school while Snape was there.


But what speculation can there possibly be?  We know what year pupils become Prefects, and that Lucius was born in 1954 or 1955, so to within a year we would know.


Alla:
> I do not see a rock and a hard place at least in the second war. Say Lucius really really wanted to get out during the first war, but could not. Fine, I can understand that.
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> But *nobody* forced him to arrive to Graveyard at all and yes, I know it required a little bit of taking a stand, maybe. He did not. But what's most important to me is that he appeared to me to be quite willing participant in the activities at the World cup, he appeared to be quite willing participant in the battle of MoM, very eager I would say.
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> And of course I wonder who forced him to that little diary stunt with giving to Ginny? His lord is dead, nobody is there to threaten him, right?
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> It seemed to me that he was very very eager and willing for him to come back.
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> And of course we hear how much Lucius hates bloodtraitors which is of course while not a sign of being DE per se, points me to the direction that Lucius is quite okay to be one of them, IMO of course.
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> And even in DH, when I agree Lucius is very clearly out of favor and disgraced and humiliated by Voldemort, he is still so eager for Draco to identify Trio to get back in the favor with his Lordship.
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> Yes, IMO Lucius is very willing Death Eater, always was.


Well you're entitled to your opinion but personally I find it a strange one.

The hard facts are that Death Eaters are branded.  If you don't return when you get the call, Voldemort finds you and kills you.

Lucius was one of the first Death Eaters to return to 'the light'  after the first war.  He was taken to task about not looking for Voldemort by Voldemort if I recall correctly, although I haven't read that book minutely for a while.  Why would he 'take a stand' when he is an intelligent man and knows this will get him killed?  Far safer to go along with it - for now.  To keep himself, and his wife and son safe.

Where is the canon that Lucius was one of the Death Eaters in masks at the world cup?  None that I've seen.  Draco is hanging around, separated from his parents, are we to believe that Narcissa is also masked?  If she isn't where is she, if Lucius is?

If he really wanted to identify Harry and Ron and Hermione, at Malfoy Manor, he has met them all, has he not?  Why would he need Draco? Lucius was a frequent visitor to the school as a School Governor, I find it difficult to believe that he would not recognise the three himself if had REALLY wanted to identify them.  He saw them at the ministry when he was accompanied by Bellatrix and Voldemort.  Harry had him arrested, you would have thought that would have burnt Harry and his friends faces on the inside of his eyelids.  And yet he can't decide and has to ask Draco, who also can't decide?  And we are expected to believe this?

As for the diary, well it's plain that Ginny's father despises Lucius, for some reason, which I've always found very strange since Ginny's father is always breaking the wizarding rules so hardly one to hold anyone else to account.  Since Lucius had no real concept of what the diary was, what better way to get rid of more descriminating evidence (he was after all disposing of others via Knockturn Alley) and set up someone he must be aware is, lets say, less than respectful about him.


Kate










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