Snape and Lucius was James and Intent And Snape

[sistermagpie]

No: HPFGUIDX 187073

Kate: 

> Where is the canon that Lucius was one of the Death Eaters in masks at the world cup?  None that I've seen.  Draco is hanging around, separated from his parents, are we to believe that Narcissa is also masked?  If she isn't where is she, if Lucius is?

Magpie:
I think it's implied, especially when Voldemort suggests that he arranged it. But no, we have no proof. Though I didn't take Draco hanging around watching to suggest his parents would have nothing to do with it. 

Kate:
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> If he really wanted to identify Harry and Ron and Hermione, at Malfoy Manor, he has met them all, has he not?  Why would he need Draco? Lucius was a frequent visitor to the school as a School Governor, I find it difficult to believe that he would not recognise the three himself if had REALLY wanted to identify them.  He saw them at the ministry when he was accompanied by Bellatrix and Voldemort.  Harry had him arrested, you would have thought that would have burnt Harry and his friends faces on the inside of his eyelids.  And yet he can't decide and has to ask Draco, who also can't decide?  And we are expected to believe this?

Magpie:
This one was written pretty clearly imo. Lucius did want to identify them because they would have possibly gotten him out of trouble with Voldemort. But he doesn't want to make a mistake since Harry's disfigured from the curse and he doesn't know Ron and Hermione by sight as well as Draco does. Narcissa brings them in saying Draco can identify them and Lucius agrees. Harry looks at his face when he's pushing Draco to do it and he looks eager where Draco is scared and reluctant. It's too important to not leave it up to the person who knows best, and that's Draco, who he encourages when he's reluctant. I thought the scene made a point of showing that Draco's reluctant but Lucius isn't.

Kate: 
> As for the diary, well it's plain that Ginny's father despises Lucius, for some reason, which I've always found very strange since Ginny's father is always breaking the wizarding rules so hardly one to hold anyone else to account.  

Magpie:
Arthur sees the rules he breaks as technical and not hurting anybody. He sees Lucius as a DE who went free who wants to harm people. It's not the rules he has a problem with with Lucius, it's what he assumes he's doing. I think Arthur's approach to the rules he himself breaks is pretty bad but I have no trouble understanding why he thinks Lucius is different.

Kate:
Since Lucius had no real concept of what the diary was, what better way to get rid of more descriminating evidence (he was after all disposing of others via Knockturn Alley) and set up someone he must be aware is, lets say, less than respectful about him.

Magpie:
He seems to understand that it opens the Chamber of Secrets and releases the basilisk. I thought he wanted to frame Arthur Weasley's kid for it.

-m