Snape and Lucius was James and Intent And Snape
Carol
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 18 16:53:59 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 187113
Montavilla47:
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> If Lucius was a prefect when Snape started school, then he would have been gone by Snape (and the Marauders') fourth year. For the three years he was present, he would have been a prefect and subject to higher standards of behavior than other students.
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> If Lucius had teamed up with Snape in order to make James and Sirius's life hell for the three years that Lucius was there, I think it would have rated a mention from Sirius when he discussed Snape's school buddies in GoF.
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Carol responds:
As I said earlier, he'd have been gone before that. He's mentioned as being 41 when Snape is still 35 (October of Harry's fifth year, which would be 1995). So he's about six years older than Snape and was probably in his seventh year (unless he was one of the older sixth years). At most, their school years overlapped by two years and more likely by one year. And how many sixteen- or seventeen-year-olds run around with eleven-year-old children? I can't imagine the suave Lucius Malfoy doing any such thing. I do think, though, that he noticed the precocious little boy and paid him some special attention, perhaps letting him run errands for him, which would account for their later friendship and Sirius Black's snide taunt, "Lucius Malfoy's lapdog," in OoP.
I agree with you that he would have been mentioned in the list of Snape's school "gang" if they'd run around together. That list does include "the Lestranges," not the always forgotten Rabastan but Rodolphus and his future wife, Bellatrix Black. We know that Bellatrix is also older than Snape--she was out of school by the time that Sirius (and therefore Severus) was fifteen--but maybe Severus was a junior member of the gang, along with Avery. Oddly, Mulciber isn't mentioned, but, then, consistency isn't one of JKR's virtues.
Anyway, I certainly agree that there's no evidence, not even the tiniest hint, that big boy Lucius and little boy Severus teamed up to bully anyone, nor does the young Severus we see on the Hogwarts Express seem at all the bully type. He just seems eager to get to Hogwarts and learn as much magic as he can and to be Sorted into Slytherin, the House of "brains." *He* doesn't bully Sirius and James. They bully him.
Carol, who was thinking that Bellatrix was at least as old as Lucius (for some reason other than the untrustworthy Black family tree)
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