Secrets (Long) OLD POST REPOST

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> Montavilla47:
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> Lupin tells us at the end of the book that Snape "let slip" about his
> werewolf-positive status.  We don't know how that happened, so 
> I don't think we can conclude with certainty that Snape did that
> out of a grudge towards Lupin.  If it was, it probably more related
> to the whole fiasco of the previous night and not from their
> childhood relationship.

Alla:

I will grant you that both interpretations are possible, but I do not see how the one that you offer is more possible than mine - that it was mainly due to his grudge towards Lupin.


Montavilla47
> In GoF and OotP, we see that Snape and Sirius both hate/dislike
> each other, but we don't see much indication that Snape continues
> to hold a grudge after Sirius is dead.  He never mentions Sirius to
> Harry, and that detention thing might be less about his dislike
> of James and Sirius and more about teaching Harry that cursing 
> other people is wrong.

Alla:

Well, I do not feel that Snape ever wanted to teach Harry any moral lessons and only took out his anger on him, again, based on Snape previous behavior I find it hard to believe, IMO of course.

But sure, of course Snape does not mention Sirius to Harry for **two years roughly**, no? Actually I think it should be one year since in DH Snape does not have much possibility to do so. So I am happy to agree to Snape holding a grudge against Sirius for many many many years after they were out of school and not after Sirius' death for the sake of this argument only


Montavilla47 
> In DH, Snape risks his cover to help Lupin out, so I think the grudge
> is over at that point.:

Alla:

Oh I do not. I think it is very in line with what Harry is being told in PS/SS (hated but not want you dead). IMO of course.


Montavilla47: 
> So, I don't hold that Snape wastes his life by holding grudges
> against dead people (who are dead and thus couldn't care less
> what he's doing).  If his life is wasted, it's wasted because he's
> keeping to a promise he made when he was suicidally depressed.
> Or, alternately, that he inadvertently set a murderer on the 
> woman he loved, after losing her friendship due to his racist
> views.
> 
> But it wasn't about James at all.  Compared to his relationship
> with Lily and his mission towards Voldemort, the Marauders were
> very small potatoes.

Alla:

I think it was very much about James - that he stole Snape's girl, etc. Not that she ever was Snape's girl of course.

Now I think at the point when Snape screams this, James is LONG dead, isn't he? Doesn't sound to me as if Snape stop holding grudges at all.

"You dare use my own spells against me, Potter? It was I who invented them - I, the Half-Blood Prince! And you'd turn my inventions on me, like your filfy father, would you? I don't think so...no!" - HBP, p.604

Alla:

And of course nobody has to agree with me on that, but I feel that matter of Snape's death supports metaphorically that he was holding grudges and in a way got his wish at the end.

He oh so resented James saving him from the possible dangerous bite, that at the end of his life he after all died in Shrieking Shack, from the dangerous bite. As if James' saving his life never happened.

I know I said it before, but I find it extremely fitting for Snape.

JMO,

Alla
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