Secrets (Long) OLD POST REPOST

[dumbledore11214]

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> Montavilla47:
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> > As far as the "filthy father" line at the end of HBP, I would argue that
> this is more based on Harry's actions at the moment,  and less about 
> Snape worrying about James using them twenty years earlier. 
> 
> But even if Snape is angry because Harry reminds him of James in both
> instances, there's nothing to show that Snape was crippled by that 
> grudge in the ten years between James's death and Harry's arrival
> at Hogwarts.  If anything, he was probably more upset about being
> turned down for the D.A.D.A. job each year.
> <SNIP>
>> But my point is, it makes sense to re-examine Snape's motivations,
> just like it does to do so in GoF after we discover that Moody is actually
> an evil impostor, or in PoA, after we discover that Sirius is innocent of 
> betraying the Potters to Voldemort.
>


Alla:

I know I argued in my previous post that I agree that both interpretations are possible as to why Snape outed Lupin, but I do think that in general for your interpretation to stand it just requires to dismiss too many characters' testimony. Dumbledore was hiding truth, Lupin was mistaken, Sirius was what? Sorry do not remember.

And here we have Snape itself, still remembering Harry's "filfy father" using his curses against him while said father had been dead for more than twenty years and Snape is still sputtering rage to his son.

So Snape really does not mean that?

Oh and to clarify, I certainly agree that Lily was a huge motivation for Snape's actions, of course I cannot dismiss it, but to me precisely because Lily is such a huge part, I can never say that his grudge against James was small potato.

To me those words in HBP persuaded me beyond any doubt that yes, Snape  is hating a dead man that much and yes, he projects it on his son that much. After DH I just had the missing part of the puzzle (suspected but certainly was not sure at all before) - that said dead man dared to win Lily's love. And of course he used Snape's curses against him and dared to save his life. 

And before you or anybody asks me what exactly is wrong with holding a grudge against people who treated Snape as they did in SWM scene, I will say - NOTHING, absolutely nothing.

I mean, I highly suspect that JKR thinks that it goes against christian forgiveness and all that, but personally I think Snape has every right to his grudges, we can't help how we feel. As long as he would have hold his grudge to his despicable self (IMO) in his dungeons, I would not have said a word against him.

I take objection to the argument that he does not hold said grudges, that's all.

JMO,

Alla