Sadism or not ? McGonagall and her punishments
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu May 21 03:11:04 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 186694
Alla:
> I mean one of the real life rules that Shawn quoted upthread stated
> something about the hair being tied back if they are more than shoulder
> length, I think.
Shaun:
Yes, but that's one schools rule - not necessarily a rule that every school
that imposes standards has. Hogwarts could still have fairly strict
standards on hair, even without that rule being in place.
<HUGE SNIP>
Alla:
But that's sort of my point Shawn. You seem to be convinced that they have hair regulations because RL schools that you attended had uniforms, which is fair enough. But there is not one reference in canon about it, so I just do not see what you are basing it besides having RL experience that uniformed schools have hair regulations.
Here is an example which flatly goes against the rule that you quoted and you are saying that it is just one rule and maybe there are still others. Maybe, but where exactly?
Lee has dreadlocks and you seem to acknowledge that most RL schools would not find it acceptable, but you think that there are other regulations. Maybe, but where exactly?
How about this? Which regulations about hair do you think Hogwarts has besides the alleged regulation that girls are not allowed to have ornamental butterflies in their hair?
I went to school during Soviet Union times and while Perestroyka already started while I was studying , school system was still operating pretty much as rigidly as it was during soviet times.
We had to wear uniforms ALL THE TIME. I do not remember one regulation about the hair we had to follow, like ever. I mean, I will venture a guess that if I decided to shave my head bold, teachers probably would not like that at all, but otherwise?
I had short hair, long hair, and very long hair, nobody cared as far as I can remember.
What I am trying to say is that you seem to be dismissing that the examples that were given go against the rules that you quoted and that they still may to have regulations.
The reason why I find Hermione's example the strongest one is because to me if the school were to have regulations, I would imagine that the purpose of them will be to have the hair neat and that to me means yes, either putting Hermione's hair in the bum or clasp, or whatever. She does not.
I am very impressed by extensive canon you quoted about her hair and which I snipped, but I do not see that any of those references show that her hair are regulated. IMO of course.
Shaun:
<SNIP>
I believe there probably are regulations - but I don't think it can be
proven absolutely one way or the other. <SNIP>
Alla:
I respect your right to think that there are regulations, but I just do not see any canon for it.
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