Hermione and her parents redux WAS: Re: Wizarding Top Ten
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 15 01:53:07 UTC 2009
No: HPFGUIDX 188030
Ceridwen:
> If I was Hermione's mother and she told me she was going to mind-wipe me "for
my own protection" or whatever, I'd nod and smile and break her wand the minute
I had the chance. If I was angry enough I'd evict her from my house and tell
her not to darken my door again until I'd calmed down, which might take a few
months at least. I would be angry and disappointed and hurt. Especially hurt,
to think that my kid thought so little of me.
>
Alla:
See, this I find hard to understand. I mean, we debated Hermione and her parents
so many times by now and I doubt anybody will move a lot from their POV, but I
still wonder. I mean, to be clear I do understand being angry if there was no
consent and knowing Hermione I would not be surprised if it was not.
But you will be THAT hurt and angry for your daughter trying to save your life?
No matter how misguided she was in that attempt, you are no match (you meaning
Mrs. Granger of course) for any of the wizards.
I mean, I see what Pippin wrote and I pretty much agree with her, except I am
not so sure that there was a consent, I think it is open question, but I mean,
surely wanting to save parent's life by any means is a forgivable intention, no?
Of course Hermione took away their right to decide for themselves, if they did
not consent and frankly I think it is extremely in character for Hermione, but I
mean, what if she did not? What if they did consent?
But even if they did not, if I was Hermione's mother, I surely would be mad
afterwards, but yeah, I will be grateful too after I calm down.
I do not like manipulation and deciding for others in RL and canon, but for
example, no matter how much I hate Dumbledore's manipulations, if he was
manipulating for example to SAVE Harry's life instead of slaughtering him, yeah,
I would be more inclined to forgive him, in my book saving a life just may be
worth it.
So in a hypothetical scenario, which is of course not happening, if Dumbledore
decides that maybe just maybe Harry should not be saving WW asses (mind you, I
am not concerned with anything else here, only this aspect. Maybe Harry deserves
to live his life and Dumbledore decides to say memory charm Harry and sent him
to live somewhere else till war is done, or something like this, I would
certainly think that Dumbledore was acting as his usual manipulating self, and I
would certainly think that he took away Harry's freedom of choice to decide
whether to fight and die or not.
However, however, I would absolutely positively forgive Dumbledore for this
manipulation. In my book saving a life just may be worth it.
JMO,
Alla
ETA:
Oh and before anybody asks this question, NO living with Dursleys does not count in my book as living his life till the war is done lol. This to me just was the beginning of manipulating Harry by making him suffer and make him love WW all the more.
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