[HPforGrownups] Re: Wizarding Top Ten Hermione's "guilt"

Kemper iam.kemper at gmail.com
Thu Oct 15 21:34:32 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 188057

> Kemper earlier:
> "Canon gives very clear evidence of Hermione's lack of concern in
> attaining consent.
> It was an abusive act done out of selfishness. It was a perversion of love.
> It was not an act of love."

> Brian:
> With respect, that's doesn't make sense.
> Sending them away to be safe could be construed as an act of selfishness.
> Making it so they won't miss her if she dies?
> Just HOW is that selfish?

Kemper now:
If she forced them to move away it would be selfish.  I think her
parents would be willing to move without being coaxed.
Hermione's memory enchantment makes her parents forget her entirely
not just if she dies.
I can't imagine what it would be like to lose a child of any age, but
part of that great sorrow is due to the great love and joy of being
with that child whether it was days or decades.  It is selfish to take
that away.

> Brian:
> I'm not debating whether she is right or wrong to do it, IF she does it
> without consent, but it isn't selfish.

Kemper now:
Are you saying if Hermione violated her parents' human rights so that
her parents could possibly live then that's not selfishness?  If so, I
obviously disagree.  Hermione is thinking of herself, her feelings.
She is not considering her parents nor their feelings.

> Brian:
> And many of you are convicting her of doing it without consent on
> carefully selected character evidence only, much of that from when she
> was TWELVE years old, there isn't even circumstantial evidence against her.
> If I'm ever accused of a crime, I hope you lot aren't my jury!

Kemper:
Hermione was THIRTEEN in CS when she plotted the drugging of Crabbe
and Goyle.  She told Ron and Harry of her idea and they attempted to
question the idea.  When Hermione was SIXTEEN in OP, she learned her
lesson and withheld telling her closest friends her plan to curse the
Dumbledore's Army sign-up sheet.

You would want me on your jury. I'm sure the evidence for and against
you would be more than Hermione's.  I'm willing to change my mind.
Maybe JKR will present a story about Hermione.

Kemper




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