Wizarding Top Ten

montavilla47 montavilla47 at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 17 21:49:24 UTC 2009


No: HPFGUIDX 188100



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kemper <iam.kemper at ...> wrote:
>
> > Pippin:
> > Why do you suppose they wouldn't consent? The goal was not to protect their peace of mind, it was to save them from ending up like the Longbottoms, powerful wizards mind you, but no match for the Death Eaters who tortured them into insanity. It's not a question of treating them like ickle Muggles who can't protect themselves.
> 
> > Joey:
> > My POV too.
> > Hermione is a Muggle-born and has been taunted for that by the Malfoys multiple times. She is the one who has been encouraging house-elves to fight for their rights. So, I don't think she would treat her own parents or anybody for that matter in a patronizing / condescending fashion when it comes to their capabilities / rights.
> 
> Kemper now:
> It would be out of character for Hermione to get permission from her
> parents.  She assumes she knows best.  She deliberately takes away the
> choice of people and other sentient beings.


Montavilla47:

While I think Pippin and Joey make good arguments, I have to 
agree with Kemper.  It is definitely in character for Hermione to
act for others without bothering to consult them.

It's also a bit illogical for her to memory charm her parents
unless it was *without* consent.  If they were willing to move to
Australia in the first place, then they could just as easily pretend
to be Wendell and Monica Wilkins as be charmed into believing 
that they are.  

So, charming the Grangers to believe that they are different people 
won't make any difference to their being traced.  It will only make 
a difference to whether or not the Death Eaters get any information
from them if they are traced to Australia.  Actually, it would put 
them at greater risk, since they would have no idea that the 
Death Eaters might be coming after them or what to do if they
did.

We know from the Longbottom story that lack of knowledge will
not prevent Death Eaters from questioning and torturing people.
So, erasing any memories of Hermione (and anything she may 
have said about Harry) will not help her parents.  It would only 
prolong their torture. 

The only people it will help would be Hermione and Harry--and
that's only if she's told her parents any information vital to what
she and Harry are up to now.  Possibly she did, and that's why 
she had to take the step of erasing their identifies so completely.
(Although, I have to question whether a memory charm cast
by a young witch who "only knows the theory" would be strong
enough to withstand the magic of the Death Eaters in retrieving
memories.)

Probably, she just thought this would be the kindest, best way
to dispose of her parents for the time being.  But it really doesn't
make sense for her to have asked them if they wanted it done.
It wouldn't have done them any good at all.







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