[HPforGrownups] Hermione and her parents Redux WAS: Re: Wizarding Top Ten

[Kemper]

No: HPFGUIDX 188196

> Kemper earlier:
> It is a possibility that she might die. But that possibility exists
> with or without my memories.
>
> Alla:
> My question is what if you know that the possibility that she might die will be significantly less if you give up your memories?

Kemper now:
No.  I don't see it as less.  The possibility of her death remains
constant with our without my memories.


> Alla:
> I meant do you think she had much choice in whether to follow Harry on the path of Voldemort's resistance? This is an easy choice?

Kemper now:
She believes in Harry and a wizarding world that is more inclusive of
other beings.  Her path lies with Harry.  It's an easy choice for her.

> Alla:
> ... I can see Hermione's choice as following : to resist Voldemort or NOT resist Voldemort. To resist Voldemort to me means helping Harry to win. So what I was saying is that I see her only other choice is to not resist and that to me is not a choice of decent person. Would you prefer

Kemper now:
Her choices are many, but what she's focused on is Harry secondarily
protecting her family.  She would still be a decent person for
sticking with her family.  Harry and Ron wouldn't think any ill of
her.

> Alla:
> It is just not possible for me to understand that parent would put their desires over possible death of their child. We are not talking about buying child a new toy, we are talking about their possible death.

Kemper now:
In the situation that we are discussing, the possibility doesn't
change with or without my memories.
There are a gazillion circumstances where I put my desires aside.
This isn't one of them.

> Alla:
> Choices? What if such child made totally wrong choice and now you all are facing a dilemma with your memories or her death? I mean how you are helping your child become better citizen if they will be dead?

Kemper now:
I don't understand the circumstance in which I face the immediacy of
her death or my memories.  That doesn't seem what's going on in the
text.

> Alla:
> You are talking about yourself being punished, but it seems to me that your child is facing so much stronger punishment?

Kemper now:
I don't see it like that.  She is already at risk based on her choice
to be with Harry.  She is not less at risk with my memory gone.  Nor
is she more at risk with it in tact.  To give up my memory would
satisfy her selfish need to feel better about a shitty situation.  Eff
that.

> Alla:
> Ah, so would it be fair to say that you would have preferred Hermione to stay with you? Thus you think her choice is wrong and you refuse to support her in that?

Kemper now:
I think as her parent I would love for her to be with us in Australia,
but it's a selfish need on my part because I know I would be keeping
her from what I see as part of her mission in life.  I would miss her
and it would be hard.
But at least I'm in Australia.  Awesome!

> Alla:
> To me in the face of child's death any talks about whatever brought it being her choice are off, I find the idea letting her face it if I can help totally impossible to understand.

Kemper now:
In immediate life threatening situation, Hermione's folks and I would
do whatever to save her life.
That circumstance is not at play in the home of the Grangers when
their memories were wiped.

jmo,
Kemper