DD's plan -- Minister of Magic

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 189133



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince" <catlady at ...> wrote:
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> Pippin wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/189128>:
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> << Now that I know how Dumbledore operates, I can't think quite as harshly of Fudge for turning against him as I used to. There's canon that Fudge shared Harry's illusion that everything would be okay as long as Dumbledore was there. Fudge knew he'd be outmatched if Voldemort returned, but he expected Dumbledore to have a plan.
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> And Dumbledore did -- but the plan was for Fudge to commit political suicide. Knowing Dumbledore, I doubt that he let Fudge know how much would be expected of him. >>

Catlady: 
> ??? Do you mean it would be Fudge's political suicide just to announce that Voldemort had returned??? 

Pippin:
No, it would have been political suicide to announce that in reponse to Voldemorts' return he was dismissing the dementors from Azkaban and  sending envoys to the giants as Dumbledore asked. Dumbledore acknowledges as much. But those steps would have helped the Ministry and the public to defend themselves. 

Imagine if Bella and her cohorts had never escaped.

 Imagine if Hagrid had gone to the giants as a ministry representative, allowed to travel openly and quickly, and able to call in backup if needed. The DE's sent to the Giants might have been arrested (or maybe eaten) instead of being able to instigate a coup. 

As Dumbledore says, Fudge would have been remembered as a great minister of magic, in or out of office, if he'd been willing to take those steps. 

But I'm sure to Fudge it felt like he had been kept in office only so that he could be forced out at the right moment. And if Dumbledore was capable of such a cruel hoax, then why shouldn't the return of Voldemort be a hoax as well?

Fudge isn't altogether wrong to believe Rita. There *was* something seriously wrong inside Harry's head, and Dumbledore was exploiting it. When Rita bothers to do actual research instead of letting the QQQ make things up, she's a pretty good newshound. 

Catlady: 
> DD planned for poor Severus to kill him to get in good with the Dark Lord and become the Dark Lord's Headmaster of Hogwarts to protect the students, so it does not seem he planned to prevent the Dark Lord from taking over Hogwarts. It does not seem he planned to prevent the Dark Lord from taking over the Ministry.
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Pippin:
I think Dumbledore saw little hope of defending the Ministry or Hogwarts if Fudge  refused  to take the steps he advised.  If Dumbledore had been Minister, he would certainly have been able to send the envoys and dismiss the dementors. But then he too would have faced demands that he step down, and I think Dumbledore was afraid that he wouldn't have been  any more willing to relinquish the office than Fudge was. 


Pippin