DD's plan -- Prophesy Manipulation?
justcarol67
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Sat Apr 24 16:55:46 UTC 2010
No: HPFGUIDX 189175
Nikkalmati wrote:
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> > BTW we don't know all the prophecies in the DOM were unfulfilled.
> > Perhaps they were mostly fulfilled and kept for research purposes.
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Mike responded:
> Oh, I didn't mean to imply that all of them were unfulfilled. DD did tell us that at least some of them were unfulfilled, that's what I was thinking of. I was surmising, from DD's point of view, that the unfulfilled were the ones nobody acted upon. <snip>
Carol adds:
Just a small point in support of Mike's idea. In OoP, some of the Prophecies are glowing (including the one about Harry and LV) while others have gone dark. I can only conclude that the darkened ones have been fulfilled while the others are either as yet unfulfilled or, like the Harry/LV one, only partially fulfilled. Had the Prophecy globe not been destroyed in OoP, I suspect that it would have gone dark when Voldemort died.
I agree with Mike that someone who has heard the Prophecy must act either to thwart or fulfill it or it will remain dark. I would assume that *all* the Prophecies in the DoM have been made in someone's hearing or they wouldn't be in the Hall of Prophecies. (DD, not Sybil, must have put the Prophecy there or given it to the master of the hall; Sybil didn't even know that she made it.)
In the case of the PoA prophecy (which was almost instantly fulfilled and never made it to the Hall of Prophecy), Harry tried to thwart Sirius Black (the person he thought was the Dark Lord's servant) and in so doing, enabled the real servant, Peter Pettigrew, to escape. Granted, they were only there in the first place because they had gone to Hagrid's hut and retrieved Scabbers, but he (and Hermione) also willingly entered the Shrieking Shack to confront the man they thought was the Dark Lord's servant (and save Ron from his clutches). Had he not done so, the true servant would not have escaped, fulfilling the Prophecy.
Carol, who thinks that JKR had in mind prophecies like the one involving Oedipus but perhaps didn't carry out the plot as skilfully as Sophocles did
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