[HPforGrownups] Re: DD's plan -- Minister of Magic

k12listmomma k12listmomma at comcast.net
Wed Apr 14 16:35:06 UTC 2010


No: HPFGUIDX 189143

>> Pippin:
>> No, it would have been political suicide to announce that in reponse
>>  to Voldemorts' return he was dismissing the dementors from Azkaban
>> and  sending envoys to the giants as Dumbledore asked. Dumbledore
>> acknowledges as much. But those steps would have helped the Ministry
>>  and the public to defend themselves.
>>
>> Imagine if Bella and her cohorts had never escaped.

From: "Eric Oppen" <technomad at intergate.com>
> Frankly, in Fudge's position, the second I had the slightest inkling
> that Voldemort had risen, I'd make sure that Bella and her charming
> friends all had "nasty accidents."  "Shot while attempting to escape"
> is always a good one.

Shelley now:
But that's exactly what is wrong with Fudge as Minister- he's unwilling to 
make the REALLY TOUGH decisions. Sacrificing a few Death Eaters so that Lord 
Thingy could not have his talented pool of thugs to regain power would have 
been a wise, sensible and best decision all the way around. It shows 
planning, forethought of preventing disaster. This isn't Fudge- he's sort of 
the bumbling idiot that can't foresee disaster coming and take active steps 
to prevent it. He's the sort that bemoans the disaster that fell upon him 
and says "there's nothing I could have done about it", rather than admitting 
the truth is closer to "I didn't have the courage to do something about it." 
Many may question America's use of the Atomic Bomb in WW2, but no one can 
dare say that America lacked the courage to make a hard decision. Indeed, 
making sure the Death Eaters died prematurely would have insured that many 
more innocent families did not have to die or tortured, and in my mind, 
would have been a worthy trade-off. But Fudge lacks the guts to do it. Even 
at the risk of them coming after me, I would have even found a way to openly 
execute the still loyal Death Eaters, to send a message to my community that 
I wasn't going to make the rise again of Lord Thingy an easy one.

Quoting Brian <brian at rescueddoggies.com>:
> As used by the most brutal dictators / facists / communists etc.,
> totally reprehensible, even if it does ocassionally still happen in
> so-called civilised countries too

It would be totally appropriate to call loyalty to Voldemort a crime, and to 
execute people for that crime. If the laws were still on the books from the 
first war with Voldemort, then they might only need a little bit of tweeking 
from "Azkaban" to "Dementor Kiss of Death". I fully disagree that only 
dictators or butal leaders would use this- Death Eaters are KNOWN KILLERS 
with no mercy shown to the public. We execute people in America for murders 
that are far less brutal than the reign of terror that Voldemort and his 
followers practiced.

Shelley






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