Snape and Harry and expulsion WAS: Re: CHAPTER DISCUSSION Chamber of Secrets

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 188813


> Alla:
>  I do not have anybody in the family going to American school, not till next year, but from books and movies to me suspension means temporary detention? Am I wrong?"

Pippin:
Suspension prohibits the student from attending school for a short period.  

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> Pippin:
> Snape said he didn't see any need to take Sirius to the castle, he could just
> call the dementors. In the event, he took Sirius to the castle. He had no way of
> knowing that Fudge was still there and would call for the kiss immediately --
> for all he knew the Minister had left hours ago. He turned Sirius over to
> Dumbledore, knowing that Dumbledore was not going to let dementors into the
> castle if he could help it.
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> Alla:
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> Really? Why would he make an assumption that Fudge would leave while dangerous criminal is still on the loose? 

Pippin:
As far as Fudge knows, Sirius hasn't been seen since the last time he invaded the castle, months earlier.  He didn't come because of Sirius, he came to supervise the execution of Buckbeak, which as far as Snape knows happened as scheduled, at which point Fudge should have returned to London. Snape had no idea that Sirius was in the Shrieking Shack until he got there. He only saw Lupin on the map. 


> Alla:
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> When I said that it is not a long road to travel from what you are describing to what I describe as Snape's intentions, I concentrated on the part that Snape wanted Harry suspended, not on the fact that he hated Harry. You seem to agree that he would want Harry expelled temporarily and I think he wants Harry expelled permanently, but again maybe I am misunderstanding what suspended means in the American schools? See above.

Pippin:
Was "detention" above a typo? IMO, wanting Harry  kept out of school for a few days or weeks is not inconsistent with wanting Harry to remain a Hogwarts student under Dumbledore's protection. Especially since a) term is almost over and b) Sirius has been apprehended.

Wanting Harry expelled permanently, so that he can never return to Hogwarts at all, is another cauldron of potion altogether. 

Pippin