Doing it for Lily? was Re: Snape and Harry and expulsion LONG

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No: HPFGUIDX 188858



> > Alla:
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> > Well, I do not think I can agree with that. I mean, sure he does it for Lily as well as he says, what I disagree with is that he is not doing it for Dumbledore. I think agreeing to convince Harry that he needs to die pretty much shows that he is really doing for Dumbledore.
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> Pippin:
> Snape wasn't asked to do the convincing. He was only told to give Harry the information that Dumbledore had given him.

Alla:

Yes, I know, to me giving Harry that information pretty much implies convincing. I realize that opinions may differ on that one of course.


Pippin:
Dumbledore left it  up to Harry to decide how and when to act on it, because only Harry would know when matters were arranged "so that when he does set out to meet his death, it will truly mean the end of Lord Voldemort."

Alla:

Nope, to me "when he does set out to meet his death" means that Dumbledore already decided for him that he is indeed going "to meet his death". Sure, he left technicalities up to Harry (shakes her head) - Dumbledore kindly allowed Harry to decide when to meet his death.

Pippin:
> I think to show that Snape wasn't doing it primarily for Lily, you'd have to show that Harry would be better off not knowing no matter what. Not knowing about the soul bit means he has *no* option for getting rid of it, no matter how strong it becomes. 

Alla:

Really? Well, I disagree. Plain meaning of Dumbledore asking Snape to convey the information which will lead to Harry's death and Snape doing it, means to me that Snape indeed doing it on Dumbledore's request. I am sure Snape can do mental gymnastics and convince himself that he is doing for Lily as well, since she would be happy if WW is saved, but to me that just does not fly. His boss asked him and that's what he does, it is very simple to me.


P.S. I put a question mark in the title simply because while the affirmative may reflect your argument, it does not reflect mine.

JMO,

Alla