Snape and Harry and expulsion LONG

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No: HPFGUIDX 188898



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "montavilla47" <montavilla47 at ...> wrote:
>
> > Alla:
> > 
> > Okay, at least I understand where you stand now, I think. You think that teacher can do any thing to a student, right? <SNIP> 
> Montavilla47:
> No, you're stretching my answer to the point of 
> absurdity.  Teachers cannot do "anything" to a student.
> 
> For example, I do not think that teachers should be 
> allowed to make students write lines with quills that 
> cut the words into their hands.  I do not think that 
> teachers should transfigure students into small animals
> and bounce them up and down on stone floors.  I do
> not think that teachers should force their students to 
> interact with dangerous experimental animals that 
> burn them. <SNIP>

Alla:

Okay, sure let me rephrase it then. You think that anything Snape does to Harry is within his authority and justifiable, yes?




> > Alla:
> > 
> > Sorry, but if you are saying that Snape was completely justified in what he did to Harry in that scene how is it Snape not acting as epitome of goodness? 
> 
> Montavilla47:
> There's a huge difference between acting within your
> authority as an authority figure and being the epitome
> of goodness. <SNIP>

Alla:

Sorry, it is just from your earlier posts I thought that while you may not view it as abuse, you did not think that Snape was acting perfectly either. However you describe his actions as somebody who was being completely justified in what he did, correct?

I just thought it was a contradiction when you say that Snape did not act as epitome of goodness and at the same time was acting as an authority figure within limits of his authority, to me that pretty much equaled epitome of goodness.


Montavilla47: 
> To use an example from my new favorite story:
> 
> Zuko is acting within his rights as a prince to fight an
> Agni Ki for the throne.  But Aang is acting as the epitome
> of goodness when he tries to find a way to avoid killing.
> 
> Of course, as everyone tells Aang, he would still be
> just to kill his enemy.  It's not *unjust,* it's that being
> the epitome of goodness usually entails going beyond
> justice to mercy.
> 
><SNIP>

Alla:

I understand I think, you think Snape does not show mercy to Harry (thus he is not an epitome of goodness), but you do not think he did anything wrong to Harry either?

Alla