Obviously guilty was Re: JKR/Oprah interview

[nikkalmati]

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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:
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> > Based on my understanding of canon, I don't believe it is possible to legitimize someone without the victim knowing it.  I can't think of a single instance where it is even hinted that it can bne done secretly.  Sheer speculation.
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> It is not a speculation all those times when Dumbledore (and Snape of course)looks at Harry and Harry thinks he knows what he is thinking about. Of course Dumbledore does not confirm it to us saying oh yes, I am legilimensing you Harry, but to me it is obvious. Especially knowing that legilimency is introduced in OOP and this is exactly what Snape does when he legilimences Harry and it is spelled out in OOP. IMO, yes all those times it was legilimency. Otherwise why did she need to stress it out that Dumbledore or Snape look in Harry's eyes so carefully when this is exactly what legilimency does? I think it was clever and quite obvious foreshadowing. One time that comes to me off the top of my head is when Dumbledore asks Harry about whether he is hiding something in CoS (about hearing basilisk). Dumbledore has had to have a reason to know everything and in OOP I was like oh, here is the reason, he together with his minion Snape mind rapes Harry every time he hunts for the information,
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> Just my opinion of course, but I totally disagree that it is a sheer speculation as you said. IMO at the very least it is a very legit canon supported inference.
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Nikkalmati

So DD and Snape are constantly gathering information through legilimency which they never pass on to others or use in any way.  For example, DD knows Harry is hearing voices saying "kill, kill" but decides - what the heck, it doesn't mean anything.  Oh, also, years earlier DD knows Tom has let the Basilisk loose and that Hagrid is innocent, but never takes any action.  DD for some reason can't legilimentize Slughorn to get the information he wants about Tom as a student, and Snape just wants Harry to know he has seen the Potions book when he does legilimentize Harry after Secumsempra?  Of course, neither of them can figure out what Draco is doing in HBP despite being so great at stealth legilimency.  Doesn't add up.

Nikkalmati