[HPforGrownups] Re: Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 16: Professor Trelawney's prediction

[June Ewing]

Potioncat:
> > 8. The Trio hears the ax fall, and Hermione says, "They did it."
> > Did Buckbeak lose his head—or was the Trio already there?

Megan:
> > I think they were already there.

SSSusan:
> Like Alla, time-turning gives me a headache and makes my head spin,
> but on this one, I'm absolutely certain that they were already
> there. There wasn't a bloody Buckbeak decapitated head lying there
> that somehow got `fixed' the `second time around.' Nope, there was
> no second time around; the TT!trio was there the first time and
> prevented the beheading altogether.
>
> I think. :)

Alla:

> YAY. You are posting :). Okay, so if they were already there and I
> know we can't, but that means that you think that the events in the
> book in this episode happened the same way as in the "Medium that
> cannot be named"? At some point in time I actually thought that I
> got the time travel in PoA pretty well and that JKR explained it so
> well, but after not rereading the book for so much I think I am
> getting confused again. I think I may go dig up some old posts on
> this topic.


June
Wow what an interesting question. I really wonder about things like that. Travelling through time is a wonderful and confusing concept lol. You would have to think that there has to be a reality where buckbeak lost his head and Sirius got the Dementors kiss or why would Harry and Hermione have to go back in the first place (In the british version Ron is in the  hospital wing and it isn't the trio but just Hermione and Harry). The question then would be which reality did we first see? Was the the first time it happened, in which case it stands to reason that Buckbeak was beheaded or was this the second, third ect. Personally I got the impression that this was not the first and therefore Buckbeak was not beheaded.