[HPforGrownups] Re: Time travel/ was:Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 16

[Shelley Gardner]

No: HPFGUIDX 190339

On 4/29/2011 8:21 PM, zanooda2 wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Shelley Gardner<k12listmomma at ...>  wrote:
>> But how do you "know" that either? It's a conjecture, a presumption>  on your part.
> zanooda:
>
> Right, DD knowing what was going on and stalling the execution *is* just an assumption, but Buckbeak staying alive is not. The Trio heard the thud of the executioner's axe, but later back-in-time Harry and Hermione found out he just hacked at the fence. This is one and the same event: the first time they heard it, and the second time they saw it. Buckbeak was never beheaded, just the fence destroyed :-).
Shelley again:
I already explained how a circle, once started and continues around, 
appears from an outside to "have no beginning". Thus, this time loop 
"appears" that the kids going back in time prevented two executions, but 
we know that once upon a beginning, two were scheduled to be executed, 
prompting the need for a TimeTurner to change those events.

You can keep your theory that neither were ever executed, but then that 
presents to me a much more unbelievable situation, how after the fact of 
no executions, Dumbledore commanded Hermione to use her TimeTurner to 
save those two lives.

Fact is this, there is a beginning to every circle, a point at which you 
started to draw it, even in later it's impossible for the outside 
observer to know where it was begun.

Shelley