The Nature & Destruction of Horcruxes ( was:... the Forest scene )

[Geoff]

No: HPFGUIDX 191194



--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

zanooda: 
> > Don't forget that Harry was not a proper Horcrux :-). ..., thus the piece of LV's soul is not bound to Harry the way it should - the way another piece is bound to Nagini. But I agree that we can't be sure how living Horcruxes can be destroyed, due to the lack of information on the subject :-).

Steve: 
> Good point, something I knew, but hadn't really considered. In Harry's case, the soul bit is just clinging to him, and clinging with the intention of staying, as it keep the soul bit earth bound. 
> 
> But you are right, it has not been properly and full bonded to Harry. 

Steve:
> > > So, simply Harry's death, or if your prefer destruction, is 
> > > not sufficient to break that Horcrux bond. But perhaps the 
> > > Avada Kadavra is enough? 

Geoff:
I think in the situation that existed, Harry was probably only likely to encounter 
an Avada Kedavra which I am sure would be enough.
 
zanooda:
> > "It has to be something so destructive that the Horcrux can't repair itself" :-). Doesn't it describe death, for a living being :-)?

Steve: 
> That's the tricky part, destructive to what? Destructive to the object or to the bond. Destructive enough, that once the bond is broken, it can't automatically re-bond itself? 
 
> Again, none of the objects were truly destroyed. The Ring, Cup, Locket are damaged 
but generally intact. 

Geoff:
I don't altogether agree...

'Dumbledore took the diary from Harry and peered keenly down his 
long, crooked nose at its burnt and soggy pages.
(POA "Dobby's Reward" p.244 UK edition)

'The monstrous versions of himself and Hermione were gone: there 
was only Ron, standing there with the sword held slackly in his hand, 
looking down at the shattered remains of the locket on the flat rock.'
(DH "The Silver Doe" p.307 UK edition)

'"So we're another Horcrux down," said Ron and from under his jacket" 
he pulled the mangled remains of Hufflepuff's cup.' 
(DH "The Battle of Hogwarts" p.501 UK edition).

'A blood-like substance, dark and tarry, seemed to be leaking from the 
diadem. Suddenly, Harry felt the thing vibrate violently, then break apart 
in his hands..'  (ibid. p.510)

Personally, the use of the words 'mangled' and 'shattered' in these 
circumstances would not project a sense of 'generally intact' to me.
:-))

I assume that you wouldn't make the same observation about Nagini 
either?
:-(