Dumbledore

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 15 18:49:07 UTC 2011


No: HPFGUIDX 190895



> Alla:
> > When did Dumbledore ever distinguish between "asking" and "commanding"? He never gave Harry commands saying "I command you". He mostly asks in a nice voice, etc, but did anybody ever doubt that it was a command? I do not think Harry exaggerated anything here, but did exactly as Dumbledore asked. Or are you saying that when Dumbledore asks, it actually means implied permission to do the opposite?
> >
> > Dumbledore never*commanded*  Harry to get the real memory from Slugghorn either, and when Harry dared to be occupied by more mundane matters, dear Albus kindly asked Harry "may I hope then, than you will give this matter higher priority from now on"? Would you argue that Harry*exaggerated*  Dumbledore's instructions here?
> >
> > No, to me Dumbledore's "asking" Harry not to share information with anybody else was very clear command and poor Harry of course as always obeyed to the letter.
> 
> Bart:
>      How does this fit in with your opinion that there was no coercion 
> whatsoever on Snape during "The Prank"?
> 

Alla:

I am confused here. If you could clarify please, I will be much obliged. Whom are you casting as Dumbledore and Harry in the Prank? I mean whom are you comparing to Dumbledore and Harry? Snape and Sirius? If so Sirius was  never in the position to *command* Snape and Snape was in the position where  he was *obligated* to listen to him. 

Or are you analogising Dumbledore and Harry to Dumbledore and Snape in the Prank, where he made Snape to keep his mouth shut about Lupin? If so, then of course Dumbledore made Snape to keep his mouth shut about Lupin. The idea that Snape who I think wanted Lupin dead or at the very least his secret exposed would have done it on his own does not hold water with me. If I ever gave you impression that I hold an opinion to the contrary, I did not mean to, sorry about that.

Or are you talking about something completely different here? Because right now I am not sure what are you talking about, and this is the first time I am learning that I held such opinion, sorry.

My initial point was that to say that I flat out disagree with the idea that Dumbledore needs to say his command in the form of order on order for it to be a command.

Even when Snape came to him on the night of Lily's death, in pain and broken, he still does not *command* him, doesn't he? Dumbledore bargains, convinces, appeals to him, etc. But does it mean that he is not effectively binding Snape into doing Dumbledore's bidding? I think he is doing exactly that.

So, to me to say that Harry *exaggerated* anything when Dumbledore *asked* him not to share information with anybody means to completely ignore Dumbledore's modus operandi.

Does that answer your question? Let me know if it is not.

JMO,

Alla







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