[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore

Bart Lidofsky bart at moosewise.com
Fri Jul 15 20:35:15 UTC 2011


No: HPFGUIDX 190900

Alla:
>> >  Alla:
>>> >  >  When did Dumbledore ever distinguish between "asking" and "commanding"? He never gave Harry commands saying "I command you". He mostly asks in a nice voice, etc, but did anybody ever doubt that it was a command? I do not think Harry exaggerated anything here, but did exactly as Dumbledore asked. Or are you saying that when Dumbledore asks, it actually means implied permission to do the opposite?
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  Dumbledore never*commanded*  Harry to get the real memory from Slugghorn either, and when Harry dared to be occupied by more mundane matters, dear Albus kindly asked Harry "may I hope then, than you will give this matter higher priority from now on"? Would you argue that Harry*exaggerated*  Dumbledore's instructions here?
>>> >  >
>>> >  >  No, to me Dumbledore's "asking" Harry not to share information with anybody else was very clear command and poor Harry of course as always obeyed to the letter.
>> >  
>> >  Bart:
>> >        How does this fit in with your opinion that there was no coercion
>> >  whatsoever on Snape during "The Prank"?
>> >  
> Alla:
>
> I am confused here. If you could clarify please, I will be much obliged. Whom are you casting as Dumbledore and Harry in the Prank? I mean whom are you comparing to Dumbledore and Harry? Snape and Sirius? If so Sirius was  never in the position to*command*  Snape and Snape was in the position where  he was*obligated*  to listen to him.
Bart:
     I am referring to your contention that the tactics used by Sirius 
to get him to go into the Whomping Willow did not constitute coercion in 
any way, shape or form.

     Bart



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