Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 18: Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Pron
dumbledore11214
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Tue Jun 7 11:34:38 UTC 2011
No: HPFGUIDX 190498
.> > Alla:
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> > No, I do not think it does mean that, actually. Of course Sirius told Snape how to get there (or alluded as you said)! My point is that to tell somebody how to get some place dangerous and then such person entirely of its own free will went there does not in my view equals setting Snape up, setting a trap for him, etc, etc.
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> Pippin:
> The set up is that Sirius knew that once Snape passed the willow, there would be nothing except the length of the tunnel between Snape and the werewolf's jaws. Snape did not know that, and there is no way he could have found out without entering the tunnel. Even if Sirius knew that Snape suspected Lupin's secret, Sirius was still withholding a vital piece of information. It's equivalent to telling someone how to break into a zoo, but not telling them that the tiger will be loose on the grounds. I can just imagine what McGonagall would make of such a defense. She would indeed have told Snape that nothing excused his being out of bounds at night, but she would also have told Sirius that his behavior was both forbidden, in aiding another student to break rules, and unworthy of a Gryffindor, in that he took unfair advantage of Snape.
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Alla:
Sirius should not have given Snape ANY information, but if Snape suspected that there was a werewolf there and still decided of *his own free will* to go there, even if he just decided to go there still of his own free will and I think he very much knew about werewolf, Sirius was taking *advantage* of him?! Sirius was taking advantage of Remus, who was just going to be there no matter what. If Snape went there after a valuable book, if Snape went there after Lily. ANYTHING to intice him to go there, anything and I will be right here with you nodding my head that he was taking "unfair advantage" of Snape but not as I see it now. I hope everybody understands that as Sirius' fan I would have had no problem admitting it if this is what I thought it was. It is not like I would like Sirius' character any less because of that, but no, not in my opinion.
He went, he saw Remus going there *with Madame Pomfrey", what did he think his presence was requested to "help poor Remus out of his misery"? Somehow I doubt that personally.
No, really one would think that Sirius came up with something, anything to make him go there, but nope he did not.
Sirius' behqavior WAS unworthy of gryffindor, Remus would have been executed most likely if he would have bitten Snape, but Snape went there *all on his own*.
JMO,
Alla
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