Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban Ch 18: Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Pron

[jules]

No: HPFGUIDX 190547


> Alla:
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> Yes, of course, again when did I ever said otherwise? Sirius is responsible for what he did, but that does not take away Snape's responsibility. If Snape died, Sirius would have been responsible for that, but not alone, not alone Pippin, as far as I am concerned. Without Snape going there, nothing would have happened. As long as we do not forget Snape's part in what have happened, huge part in my view, please I have no problem with you charging Sirius with anything you like. As I said, the inferences that I am making as Sirius' fan do not matter, because they are inferences, I perceive it as stupid joke that could have ended deadly, because I am willing to give Sirius' benefit of the doubt, but as far as facts are concerned the possibility that he may have wanted to kill Snape is equally valid. But what I am objecting to is taking out Snape's decision to go there, which he would have done no matter who would have told him that information. That does NOT absolve Sirius of may have wanting to kill Snape at all if thats what he wanted. 
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Julie:
I also agreed that Snape was stupid to go there, and if he was
killed it would be partly his own fault for going somewhere 
an "enemy" sent him without considering the source of the 
information. The difference between us I think, is that I see
Sirius as more at fault than Snape. Especially so since he 
put Remus in equal danger, and Remus was totally unaware. 

What the prank really means to me is that Sirius was not a 
nice guy as a teenager, in fact a worse person at the time
than Snape. As an adult, obviously Snape was a worse person
for a time, while he was a Death Eater. By the time the two
met up again, after Sirius got out of Azkaban, I'd probably
consider them about even. Snape was a reformed Death Eater,
a spy, working for the good, but still a mean and bitter man.
Sirius was out of Azkaban, but still unrepentant about his
teenage ways in relation to Snape, and as unforgiving and 
unwilling to look at anyone or anything outside his own
preconceived notions as was Snape. Which makes neither of 
them people I could actually like in person, and both of
their lives ultimately tragic, IMO.

Julie