Cedric, Snape and carma was re: Chapter Discussion: Prisoner of Azkaban
willsonteam
willsonkmom at msn.com
Thu Jun 16 02:19:51 UTC 2011
No: HPFGUIDX 190548
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Except, see I think Cedric was doing a choice which he would think would test him to the limits, which of course could and likely will be dangerous, but the difference to me between Cedric choice to enter Tournament and Snape's choice to enter a Shack was that Cedric did not think that his choice was to do something as evil and selfish as Snape wanted to. Cedric wanted to win in the Tournament, which he wanted to do in the most noble way. Snape wanted to do *something* to his fellow student, can we agree on that?
Potioncat:
If POA was the last book to have come out, I might agree with you. Although if we look back to those days, I probably didn't :-) But now we know about the real rivalry between Severus and the Marauders. We know how it started and what James and Sirius were like as young students.
So I don't see it that Severus was doing something evil and selfish.
He's a young boy who believes a fellow student is a danger to the other students. He tries to convince a friend of this, but is rebuffed. Sounds like Harry in HBP, doesn't it? Was Harry being evil or selfish as he followed Draco around? Was he wrong to want Draco expelled? Did he think DD really knew what was going on?
And come to think of it, how many times have we seen DD allowing dangerous people or dangerous situations at Hogwarts? So both Harry and Severus had reason to doubt DD's judgement.
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> > > Goodness, no, not a reward, a carmic payback, for tormenting James's son for one of many James' offenses amongst them being saving him IMO.
Potioncat:
Happy dance aside....
karmic justice? I think not. Although there is a real pattern, Snape went to the Shrieking Shack three times that we know of and all three times turned out badly. At least twice he went there because of Harry.
If you think Snape's death was karma for how he treated James's son what do you think James's and Lily's deaths were---punishment for how they treated young Severus?
So while I see where you are coming from, and defend your opinion, I don't agree with the interpretation. I do think Snape died as part of the construction of this type of story. All of Harry's father figures die (except for Arthur--thankyou JKR for that small mercy)
JMO you know.
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