Occlumency

[rtbthw_mom]

No: HPFGUIDX 191725




> > Alla:
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> > Ah I see, thanks. In my view, Snape simply stopped doing it. But anyway I was looking at the Lexicon, and I think I found Voldemort using Legilimency on unsuspecting Harry, but I thought I knew of another example, maybe not, anyway, tell me do you think when Voldemort asks Harry to give him a stone from his pocket, has he not using Legilimency here in your opinion?
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> Nikkalmati
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> I looked at that passage again.  I am reminded that I never understood how the Stone ended up in Harry's pocket even after DD's explanation.  Nevertheless, to your suggestion - I guess it is possible because we are not given any other way he could know about the Stone, but I would point out that LV suggests Quirrel use the boy to get the Stone and when Harry says he has won the Quiddich cup, LV says "he lies, he lies".  All that was before Quirrel unwraps his turbin, so I think LV had an idea about Harry and the Stone before he had a chance to look at him.  I just can't make it all work in my head, but yes this is one possible secret use of Legilemancy.
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> I agree with Andy that LV performed Legilemancy on Gregorivich, but probably GG knew what LV was doing and what he was seeing.
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> Nikkalmati
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Pat:

See, in my view, there is no possible way this could be Legilimancy. LV is wrapped up in Quirrell's turban and in the back of Quirrell's head - how could he possibly look Harry in the eye and use Legilimancy on him? This does not agree with how it is used any other time in the story. This has to be more an intuition on LV's part - I think he just intuits when others lie around him. One of those kind of gifts - I know others (my husband among them) that have this ability. And in my husband's case, I can guarantee that he doesn't know how to Legilimance anyone!

So, my vote is, no possible way this is Legilimancy.

Pat