Occlumency VERY VERY LONG

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 191730


.> > Alla:
> > I have no problem with that, what I disagree with is that Dumbledore needed
to act a *certain way*, specifically put all his hopes in Harry's basket and
leave him without any help and protection besides his two friends in that
idiotic quest IMO.
>
> Pippin:
> He didn't put all his hopes in Harry's basket. The Order remained active, with
orders to do whatever Harry asked of it. Harry could have asked the Order to
kill the snake, to help get the locket from the ministry or the cup from 
Gringotts, or for that matter to hunt down Mundungus Fletcher, all without
violating Dumbledore's instructions.
>
> Trying to do it all on his own with just Ron and Hermione to help him was
Harry's idiotic idea, not Dumbledore's. As a reader, I wanted to grab Harry by
the shoulders and *make* him ask for help from Bill. But noooo, Harry is too
noble to ask anybody he cares about to help him. He would rather make a dubious
bargain with a goblin he knows doesn't like him very much.
>
> Harry was only told not to reveal what he knew from his lessons with
Dumbledore. When he finally realized it was everyone else's fight too, he
realized he could ask for help in locating or destroying objects without telling
people why he wanted it done. <SNIP>


Alla:

See, this is IMO taking the blame off Dumbledore's shoulders and taking it where
it absolutely does not belong. Harry took Dumbledore's words literally, how else
they were supposed to be taking? I would have taken it exactly like that. Share
the purpose of your quest only with Ron and Hermione, for me means exactly that.
Harry was supposed to realize that he can get around the instructions of
Dumbledore and figure out the way not to listen to him? Sorry, I am not buying
this at all, I think Dumbledore knew exactly what he was doing and he meant for
Harry to fight only with Ron and Hermione. As far as I am concerned Order was
worse than useless in book seven till final battle and may have been disbanded.

Edited to add:

So why do you think Dumbledore told Harry to share his quest only with Ron and Hermione? Because his lessons and Harry's fight in book seven supposed to be the same thing, so if Dumbledore did mean for Harry to get meaningful help, why not to say - ask anybody from the Order for help, share it with them?

I know the answer of course - JKR wanted for kids to be heroes without adults' help, but to me this makes Dumbledore look horrible and she to me did not resolve such contradiction credibly.

JMO,

Alla.