Chapter Discussion: Chapter Fifteen, Goblet of Fire: Beauxbatons and Durmstrang

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> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff" <geoffbannister123@> wrote:
> > > > 5. How do you think the Durmstrang ship arrived in the lake? Was this
> > > > apparition? Something else? Why do you think this mode of transportation was
> > > > not more widely used in the Potterverse?
> > > 


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> Geoff:
> From the description of the ship's arrival, I get the feeling that it is a fairly 
> big ship - seemingly something like a galleon (although that may be 
> triggered by the film) but with a high mast, it would probably not be able 
> to travel submerged and unseen.
> 


Snip some of Geoff's post. . .


> This then raises the point of why does the ship travel submerged anyway -if 
> it hadn't used some magical means to appear in the Hogwarts loch? The 
> Beauxbatons coach was quite visible to the students on its approach and 
> appeared to have come all the way like that. Had it been Disillusioned against 
> Muggles until on final approach? Why did the Durmstrang ship not travel in 
> a similar way on the surface?
> 
> One other interesting snippet regarding this occurs, albeit well ahead of 
> where we are currently investigating:
> 


Pat:

 I agree with Geoff that the ship had to be fairly large, because the Durmstrang students and Karkaroff lived on board. Of course, they could have magically enlarged the inside of the ship just as we saw that Arthur Weasley and other MOM wizards enlarged the insides of cars (and we saw the tents enlarged in like manner at the Quidditch World Cup.) I have always been certain that the Beaubatons carriage had been magically enlarged inside so the French students could live there. As an aside, I often wondered if they also had their lessons on board ship (and the Beaubatons students had theirs in the carriage) since we never saw the foreign students having class with the Hogwarts students. 

As to how the ship travelled from Durmstrang to Hogwarts, I pictured them as having travelled underground through underground water reservoirs, and then, like a submarine, raising to surface level when they arrived at the lake by Hogwarts. Just offering up an alternative way that they may have traveled, since JKR did leave it to our imaginations!

BTW, has she added any additional information on this subject over at Pottermore? I signed up but haven't had time to spend over there, so I'm way behind.

Pat