[the_old_crowd] Re: (Symbols)

Sun Mar 14 21:10:57 UTC 2004

Hello everyone,

I realize that I have not read all of the fantastic
emails by the thousands of posters on HP for Grown Ups
and such.  However, the story of the Alchemy Wedding
is actually  a story that is drawing parallels to
another story.

The Woman in the glass case is also Snow White and
Sleeping Beauty awaiting loves first kiss.  Venus is
her name as well.  She represents the Divine Feminine.

There is also quite a history of people who believe
that all of these represent Mary Magdalene.  The bride
who was locked away by the Church.  She was called a
prostitute,  but evidence exists that she was actually
the daughter of a wealthy family and essentially of
royal jewish blood.

The realization of this bride (the Divine Feminine) is
the secret that the Knights Templar, The Priory of
Sion, and such have been guarding.  The reason that
they have to guard the secret is that the Roman
Catholic church called anyone who believed in the
Divine Feminine a Heretic who must be put to death!

The idea of Witches came about as people who worshiped
a Divine Feminine who must be burned at the stake. 
The people who believed in Jesus as the husband and
Mary Magdalene as the wife were not acceptable to the
Church.

The Priory of Sion (Nicholas Flamel belonged to it)
supposedly guarded the secret documents that showed
that Mary was the bride of Jesus.  The symbol for the
feminine side was the V and the symbol for the male
side was the ^.  The V is the symbol of Venus and the
^ is the symbol of Mars.  The V was also called "the
Chalice" which is the Holy Grail that the Knights were
searching for.  The Chalice is not really a cup from
the last Supper.  It is the vessel that contained the
blood of Jesus (his lineage).  

That means that Mary Magdalene is the mother of his
children.  It is believed that her body was moved
around with the secret documents.  The woman in the
coffin is Mary.  An understanding of Mary as his bride
is an understanding of the importance of male and
female in unity.  Also Yin and Yang contains this
concept because the black and white are united and
each contains a piece of the other inside.  Whether or
not you wish to believe the story to be true, the fact
is that many people have died over the centuries to
protect and defend this belief.  They are considered
pagans, heretics, witches, etc......I believe HP is
about witches, is it not?

The source of many tales over the centuries is this
concept of uniting the male and female together again.
Loves first kiss for Snow White and Sleeping Beauty. 
The symbols are so numerous it is too difficult to go
through them all.

The one that made me think was the women in the back
of the bearded man's head looking at a mirror.  This
is from the Alchemist's stories.  The ending of Harry
Potter is obviously there.

I don't know all these stories of spiritual awakening,
but I do know that famous artist's throughout the
centuries have been painting and writing songs about
the Divine Feminine.  That who the Troubadours sang
about.  That is the woman that the Knights pledged
their allegiance to.  I think it interesting that the
United States founding fathers often refer to Lady
Liberty!

I will try to read up on the "Alchemical Wedding of
Christian Rosencreutz"  However, I find it interesting
that the Rose is the symbol of the Divine Feminine
(ie. Mary M., Venus)for the Christians who believed in
Mary M.  

Christian Rosencreutz is a very interesting name
indeed!!!!

--- "Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)"
<catlady at ...> wrote:
> I am kept away from my m-lists for a measley three
> weeks (my job
> consumed more time than usual) and all this activity
> took place!
> 
> --- In the_old_crowd at yahoogroups.com, Randy Estes
> <estesrandy at y...> wrote:
> > As I think about the story of Nicholas Flamel and
> the
> > Priory of Sion, I cannot help but rethink the 7
> tasks
> > in the ending of the Philosopher's stone.
> 
> (snip)
> 
> > I am positive that JKR knows the story of the
> Priory
> > of Sion and the Knights Templar and the quest for
> the
> > Sacred Feminine.  This story is related to Harry
> > Potter since Nicholas Flamel is connected to both.
> 
> You missed the posts on the main list connecting HP
> to 'The Alchymical
> Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz", which I think
> would interest you.
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/70310
> This one lists the similarities between each of the
> seven days of the
> Alchymical Wedding to each of the seven years of HP,
> including the end
> of the first day:
> << CRC is presented with seven `challenges'; six
> inside the dungeon,
> and one at the entrance above it, and during the
> final challenge
> inside the dungeon receives a wound to the head from
> the stone, but
> is rescued by his mentor, a wise old man >>
> << The seven HP challenges: Fluffy (entrance above
> the dungeon); the
> Devil's Snare; the Keys; the Chess Game; the Troll;
> the Potions; the
> Mirror (inside the dungeon) >>
> 
> 
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/70287
> << In post 56254 I compared HP to the "Alchemical
> Wedding of Christian
> Rosencreutz", published in 1616. William Truderung
> was kind enough to
> reply in great detail and he gave a website where
> the AW can be read
> in modern English.
> 
> That was before OOP. I've only just begun to recover
> from the impact
> of OOP and so it's very early to dig deeply into the
> symbolism of it
> all. However I've just woken up to an extremely
> striking parallel
> between HP and the AW which gave me quite a shock
> which was at the
> same time a thrill of breathtaking possibilities.
> 
> In year 5 Harry comes across a room that is always
> locked. He is told
> that this room contains "a force that is at once
> more wonderful and
> more terrible than death, than human intelligence,
> than the forces of
> nature." This force is never named, but it is
> obvious to us that this
> is love.
> 
> On day 5 Christian Rosencreutz comes across a room
> that is always
> locked. He is told that this room contains the
> sleeping "Lady Venus".
> Sound familiar? You don't have to have an IQ of 200
> to work out what
> Venus symbolizes. >>
> 
> Another post from "Mongo"
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/65101
> 
> Ivan Vablatsky (Hans in Holland): "see my previous
> posts, incl. 55907,
> 56071, 56254, 56477, 67775, 68623, 69086, 70287,
> 70318, 70963, 71831,
> 72782, 73252, etc." 
> 
> 

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