A dastardly Voldy plan - was: Re: Lockets
dungrollin
spotthedungbeetle at dungrollin.yahoo.invalid
Thu Aug 4 14:47:19 UTC 2005
> Dungrollin:
> ...I'm also convinced R.A.B. is Regulus, and I'm suspicious of
> Regulus finding the cave and getting the locket out by his own and
> on his self. I think he had help from a senior DE <snip>
>
> The question is, who was it?
> <snip>
>
> Obviously, it can't have been Snape, because if he were Good, and
> out to destroy Voldy's hipkitches from such an early time, he would
> have told DD all about it yonks ago, and DD would never have
> bothered going to the cave to get a fake. If he were ESE (as if!),
> why would he have helped Regulus pinch one of his master's
> trinkets? Perhaps someone with a penchant for ESE!Snape could
think
> this one through, (I'm afraid my doublethink abilities are too
> limited).
>
> <snip further cast of suspects>
>
> Basically, I can't decide between ESE!Aberforth and
> MoreResentfulThanHeSeems!Lucius, for the moment.
>
> Carolyn:
> This is where I've come to a dead end as well. Snape seems to me
> the most likeliest of the whole bunch, because it is clear from
the
> Sluggy evidence that it is not unusual for very advanced students
> with an interest in the Dark Arts to be interested in Hxs. But I
> cannot figure out how he found the location of the cave, and if he
> did do it, why he would not have told DD (since naturally, he is
> Not Guilty as charged <g>).
>
> Carolyn
Dungrollin:
While trying to clear some of the inch-thick slick of duckweed from
the pond yesterday morning (a satisfying, if tedious job which
allows the mind to wander and the frogs to breathe), I found myself
reasoning this way:
The problem with postulating Snape (aside from the fact that he's
*obviously* still working for DD) is that he's hardly more plausible
than Regulus. Snape too was only a handful of years out of Hogwarts.
Slughorn's drunken stutterings ("I am not proud ... I am ashamed of
what of what that memory shows ... I think I may have done
great damage that day ...") lead me to think that had anybody come
to him asking about Hipreplacements after Tom did, he'd have told
them to bugger off.
Which suggests to me that there's no way Regulus could have found
out about them. There was nothing in Hogwarts library, DD had
forbidden all discussion of them, Slughorn doesn't even want to
revisit the memory of talking about them. Voldy apparently trusted
no-one. Who could have suspected that he was making a High-hat?
Perhaps someone who didn't go to Hogwarts at all, someone who didn't
have the benefit of a Headmaster like DD to excise all references to
unmentionably evil magic in the library. Someone like Karkaroff, who
went to Durmstrang and learned the Dark Arts there. Actually,
Karkaroff makes a lot of sense it explains why he was so
surprised to find that the Dark Marks were coming back in GoF, it
explains why he blabbed as soon as he was caught by the ministry
he never thought he'd have to beg for Voldy's forgiveness because he
thought that Voldy was gone for good, not realising that he had more
than one Howcryptic.
It's still a stretch, really, because we also need to explain how
whoever it was found out about the cave. The only people who knew
for certain are Tom and Amy and Dennis. Mrs Cole and DD know/knew
that *something* happened, and anyone who knew that Voldy was really
Tom Riddle could have tracked down the Muggle Orphanage and (with a
bottle of gin) induced Mrs Cole to tell the story. But why would
anyone think to do that? It still requires that Voldy had let slip
something about a really great bit of Muggle torture he did before
he even owned a wand. Which runs contrary to what DD says about him:
"He was very guarded with me; he felt, I am sure, that in the thrill
of discovering his true identity he had told me a little too much.
He was careful never to reveal as much again, but he could not take
back what he had let slip in his excitement, nor what Mrs Cole had
confided in me."
Though we could assume that Tom was much less guarded with his proto-
Death Eaters in the Slytherin common room.
Then, yesterday afternoon (while re-sealing the bath) I thought:
wait a moment... Sluggy didn't tell Tom about the spell needed to
make a Horseblanket, so where did Tom find out?
How about Grindelwald? Could Karkaroff have also been a Grindy
acolyte? Is that how he and Tom met? I should think Grindy would
have been somewhat suspicious of Tom, and, perhaps through
legilimency picked up the memory of Amy and Dennis in the cave.
(This would undoubtedly have angered Tom no end, so he'd have
dedicated himself to becoming the best Legilimens in the world).
Thus, it could have been Grindy who let it slip to Karkaroff before
DD nobbled him.
Or is someone going to tell me that we know when Karkaroff was born
and it doesn't tally?
Just a thought or five.
Dungrollin
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