Stupid question about Horscrux!Harry

[Jen Reese]

Jen wrote: 
> > Another objection is how it could have happened given Lily's 
> > sacrifice. Her protection was there before LV cast the AK, and
> > if it's as strong as we're led to believe, the cornerstone of
> > Hary's protection, I don't see how an evil soul sliver got 
> > through that.

Neri:
> As I mention above it is canon that a sliver of Voldy found it's
> way into Harry at GH despite the protection. The only question is
> if this sliver is a soul sliver.

Jen: His powers found a way inside, some of his powers. Powers 
aren't in and of themselves good or evil. DD confirmed there are 
Parselmouths 'among the great and the good' even if the power has a 
reputation of being dark magic. Do we have any other confirmed 
powers Voldemort passed? I've heard legilimency and possession and 
think we've seen more signs of legilimency (which might come in 
handy for plot purposes if nothing else, to extract memories for the 
Pensieve <g>).

The accidental Horcrux will be an extremely hard sell after HBP, 
where Dumbledore tells us: "If he had not forced your mother to die 
for you {hey, I thought she had a choice?}, would he have given you 
a magical protection he could not penetrate?" (chap. 23, p. 510).

Voldemort could not penetrate the magical protection. Maybe his 
morality-neutral powers could penetrate, but his soul is part of him 
and therefore, should not be able to penetrate Harry either. I'm 
taking the hard-line approach on this one <bg>.

Neri:
> We have Dumbledore's opinion that at GH Voldy was still one Hx
> short, and that he most probably intended to use the killing of
> Harry for his last Hx, so half of the required intention is
> already there. The fact that Voldy tried to spare Lily also 
> suggests he wanted to make her the Hx. This means he may have
> intended to perform the full Hx magic that night. In fact, perhaps
> he had already performed it, and everything was ready except for 
> the victim and the Hx herself/himself.

Jen: Urgh, Neri! That thought never occurred to me, that Voldemort 
wanted to use Lily as a Horcrux. Why, though? A living thing as a 
Horcrux sounded like a last-resort option. And he knows the woman 
who thrice-defied him isn't going to willingly agree to that. 
Wouldn't he guess that she would rather die? Then he's left with 
nothing to put the soul into. But as for intention, you're right the 
intent to seal a Horcrux was there that night, I can't argue with 
that.

About Lily though, as I can't really agree Voldemort wanted to use 
her for a Horcrux (too many risks for failure); and after getting 
Voldemort's psychological profile in HBP, I'd say him saving Lily 
b/c Snape asked him to is out of the question (he's not into the 
saving people thing <g>). So what's left for why he might ask Lily 
to step aside? The only thing that makes sense for me, which would 
answer multiple plot questions, is the idea Lily possessed a power 
he feared might backfire on him. I'm basing it on three interview 
answers or lack of answers:

1) JKR couldn't give details about James & Lily's professions. I'm 
really sold on the idea Lily worked at the DOM.

2) She side-stepped the question of whether some witches and wizards 
can do magic with their eyes. 

3) We're promised to find out the really big thing about Lily in 
Book 7.

Neri: 
> While magic is usually intentional, this intention is frequently 
> misdirected, and accidents *do* happen. Intentional magic often
> goes wrong, and the most spectacular example we have for that is
> Voldy's AK rebounding and vaporizing himself that very night. It
> would hardly be very surprising if this wasn't the only piece of
> magic that didn't go as planned that night.  

Jen: Have we seen an accident with a process though? One of the 
biggies that involves a ritual like a Secret-Keeper or the 
Unbreakable or the re-birthing potion? Something involving 
complicated magic, I mean.

It's possible making a Horcrux isn't complicated, but Riddle 
couldn't find that information on his own, even though he had time 
to search outside of Hogwarts after the murders of his family, and 
before going to Slughorn. And Riddle wasn't asking Slughorn a throw-
away question, Harry noted he had the look and sound of a person who 
spent weeks building up to that one moment. It just sounds like a 
complicated piece of magic, OK? ;) I'm a little light on canon here.

Jen