Further thoughts

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> > Neri originally:
> > Some more things we found out in HBP (and related
> > interviews):
> ...
> 
> > We found out who knows the full prophecy today.

> flummoxed!Waldo asked:
> Other than Harry and the now late DD?  who else? 

Neri:
Just them and now Ron and Hermione. But we didn't know that before and
now we have Dumbledore's word for it:

Ch. 4:
"No, they do not," interrupted Dumbledore. "There are only two people
in the whole world who know the full contents of the prophecy made
about you and Lord Voldemort, and they are both standing in this
smelly, spidery broom shed."

>  
> > We found out what's "neither can live while the
> > other survives" means

> 
> I am sorry, what did we learn from HBP about that
> phrase that we didn't know before? 
>

Neri:
Ch. 23:
"But," said Harry, bewildered, "but last year, you said one of us
would have to kill the other —" 

"Harry, Harry, only because Voldemort made a grave error, and acted on
Professor Trelawney's words! If Voldemort had never murdered your
father, would he have imparted in you a furious desire for revenge?
<snip>.

"But, sir," said Harry, making valiant efforts not to sound
argumentative, "it all comes to the same thing, doesn't it? I've got
to try and kill him, or —" 

"Got to?" said Dumbledore. "Of course you've got to! But not because
of the prophecy! Because you, yourself, will never rest until you've
tried!"

  
> > We found out what's in the locked room (big deal...)

> 
> In HP6?  We did? From OotP and interviews we learned a
> thing or two, but from HBP?
> 

Ch. 23:
"Yes, you have," said Dumbledore firmly. "You have a power that
Voldemort has never had. You can —" 

"I know!" said Harry impatiently. "I can love!" It was only with
difficulty that he stopped himself adding, "Big deal!" 

"Yes, Harry, you can love," said Dumbledore


> > We found out that Voldy still believes he's
> > protected by Harry's blood.

> 
> Where did we learn that? What does that mean really? 
> He thinks he is protected by Harry's blood?  

Neri:
Ch. 2, Snape says: "If I had murdered Harry Potter, the Dark Lord
could not have used his blood to regenerate, making him invincible —".


> 
> > We found out what happened to Kreacher and to
> > Sirius' estate.

> 
> What did we learn other than that Harry is the
> presumed inheritor? 
>

Neri: 
That 12GP belongs to Harry, that it is still the Order's HQ, that
Kreacher must do what Harry tells him, that Bella is the oldest of the
Black sisters, that the content of Sirius' Gringots vault was
transferred to Harry's vault. All of which may be important clues.

   
> > We found out James wasn't that much of a bully after
> > all.

> 
> What did we learn about this in HBP? 
>

Neri:
Ch. 16, Lupin about Levicorpus:
"Oh, that one had a great vogue during my time at Hogwarts," said
Lupin reminiscently. "There were a few months in my fifth year when
you couldn't move for being hoisted into the air by your ankle." 

  
> > We found out Severus was indeed playing with Dark
> > Arts at school.

> 
> We already knew that that he was "up to his eyeballs
> in the dark arts," no?     
>

Neri:
We did, but before HBP some people believed it to be only Sirius'
unfair personal views. In HBP it's Snape himself who regards
sectumsempra as "Dark Magic". 

Ch. 24:
"I didn't mean it to happen," said Harry at once. His voice echoed in
the cold, watery space. "I didn't know what that spell did." 

But Snape ignored this. "Apparently I underestimated you, Potter," he
said quietly. "Who would have thought you knew such Dark Magic? Who
taught you that spell?"
 

> > We found out that the gum wrappers don't mean
> > nothin' at all.

> 
> From the book?  I thought that came up in an
> interview,  but I don't think it was mentioned in the
> book.
> 

Neri:
We found this in the interview, and this is why I wrote in the
original post "and in related interviews".


> > We found out whom Snape really loves.

> 
> We did? 
> 

Neri:
This one is admittedly not so obvious. You need to read between the
lines of "Spinner's End" a bit, and it's useful to know that the HBP
confirmed timeline places Narcissa in the same or similar year as our
Severus. For more details see
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_old_crowd/message/2374

Neri